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#1 _glatisant_
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[QUOTE="_glatisant_"][QUOTE="manhore30"]

if you go to college=$100,000 to $500,000 a year after college

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Really? In Britain an average graduate salary would probably be between £30-40,000.

with what jobs?

It's that if you count out the doctors, lawyers and bankers. It's certainly that if you want to work in a science.

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if you go to college=$100,000 to $500,000 a year after college

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Really? In Britain an average graduate salary would probably be between £30-40,000.

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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"] Anyone who met him and wrote about what he said? danwallacefan
well yes actually, we have John the Elder and Matthew bar Alphaeus. These 2 men wrote the Gospel of Matthew and the Gospel of John.

They never met Jesus, as they both contain references to the diaspera, which happened in 70 AD. Current historical thinking is that Mark wrote his gospel first, most likely around 70 AD and then Matthew and Luke used this as a source. John is a lot harder to place, except for being post-diaspera.

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Judging from your avatar I presume you have read A Clockwork Orange, but have you read anything else by Anthony Burgess? I would certainly recommend "Earthly Powers".
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[QUOTE="Teenaged"]Well this academic community has advanced ever since. The Bible or any religion hasn't.Crushmaster

Perhaps that is because the Bible has yet to be proven wrong.

The census in Luke makes no historical sense, Jesus has two genealogies, the world isn't 10,000 years old (you might want to look up the hubble constant), Genesis has two contradictory accounts and God did not create plants before the sun.

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Regular people arn't recorded in history. and given the time frame between the first christian sects and his death and ministry its not likely they were so completely and dramitcally different from the original.

What you have to remember is that Christianity would have lived and died soley as an obscure Jewish sect were it not for Paul, and a marvellous bit of politics by Constantine a few centuries later. Also the Jewish people were rather desperate for a messiah at the time.

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[QUOTE="Crushmaster"]Considering probably every single secular university/research institution whole-heartedly supports evolution, I do not see how that invalidates it. As to the last sentence of your post, I have yet to see these "mountains" of "scientific evidence" disprove literal creation, that cannot itself be disproven by something else.foxhound_fox

The fact that a site is trying to validate an already invalid claim proven wrong by the reliable academic community does in fact invalid it as a source for anything within the confines of an objective debate.

The Earth is not 6000-10000 years old. This has already been proven false. The major piece of evidence that so proves this is the dating of all the geological formations on the planet, which has the age of the Earth to be about 4.54 billion years old. Read this article if you want to know how they do it. We also have ice cores from glaciers that are older than the proposed literal creation age of the Earth.

Also, it's strange how young-earth creationists never try picking a fight with the hubble constant.

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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]An objective study of the presuppositions in the Bible would not be very biased at all, and generally would be an acceptable source. Granted, they wouldn't help your point at all. "Creation reserach?" The fact that there is an institution that has the goal of proving Creationism "right" invalidates the source immediately. There is mountains of scientific evidence that proves that literal Creation is not fact.Crushmaster

Considering probably every single secular university/research institution whole-heartedly supports evolution, I do not see how that invalidates it.
As to the last sentence of your post, I have yet to see these "mountains" of "scientific evidence" disprove literal creation, that cannot itself be disproven by something else.

And this doesn't suggest something to you about the veracity of evolution? Not even slightly?

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[QUOTE="_glatisant_"] Institute for Creation Research" Seriously? And would any of them happen to have a geology degree? Crushmaster
I am sure many (if not all) of them have a lot more than just a geology degree.

I should have added "of greater authenticity than Kent Hovind's". Oh, and further inacurracies are the wildly contradictory birth narratives, starting with the genealogies. Also, historically, we can almost certainly say the census forcing Joseph to go to Bethlehem is BS.

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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="Crushmaster"]Indeed?
http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs/4168.aspCrushmaster

Only non-biased sources from respectable scholarly institutions are allowed.

Anything I or you post is going to be biased in one way or another. Besides that, how does that invalidate what they are saying? You should at least look at the article. Here are some from the Institute for Creation Research: http://www.icr.org/article/504/http://www.icr.org/article/520/

"Institute for Creation Research" Seriously? And would any of them happen to have a geology degree?