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[QUOTE="atoria56"]Again, it depends on mentality. We do have pacifists, you know...Just because he chased me does not mean he is properly trained example a mom can tell her kid not to punch his sibling but he does anyway does that mean he is not a good listener? No it just means that he acted on normal instinct. How did I contradict myself the dog did listen to its owner but its own mind decided to make the decision and charge me.
DeeJayInphinity
Yeah it does depend on mentality. So I guess the dogs mentality was that I was an annoying looking 7 year old that it wanted to chase lol.
[QUOTE="atoria56"]I know they weren't properly trained because THEY ATTACKED PEOPLE. :|Maybe if you clarified your point more it would not be misinterpreted. How do you know they were not trained dogs? The dogs that I was chased by was a retriever that actually followed its owners every word (keep in my mind that at this time I was only 7) that goes to show that it is not going to listen to everything. BTW No matter what you still keep repeating yourself
DeeJayInphinity
And you just contradicted yourself. Either the dog listens to its owner or it doesn't. Go to a pet show guy, all of those pets are extremely loyal and most of them would never attack a person because they're PROPERLY TRAINED.
Also, go talk to a temper evaluator.. they'll tell you exactly how you can find out if a dog is socialized. When dogs get aggravated, which may or may not happen often, they often start biting. There are tons of pets who would never bite people and its can easily be proven.
Just because he chased me does not mean he is properly trained example a mom can tell her kid not to punch his sibling but he does anyway does that mean he is not a good listener? No it just means that he acted on normal instinct. How did I contradict myself the dog did listen to its owner but its own mind decided to make the decision and charge me.
Why do you think it's when you were born? Did you see it when you were born? Do you have any memory of how the earth was during your first months? How do you know it was there? PS: You're 11 days older then me... b****.>.>...VacantPsalm
I am 11 days older than you? I remember my baby years hear and there, its actually our fault that we forget the majority of us get so rapped up in the worries, stresses, and materials in this society that things become clouded.
[QUOTE="atoria56"]I keep repeating myself because you keep spouting the same stuff at me...Omg you really believe they can not think for themselves they are living beings like, I have been chased by a well trained pet people have attacked by well trained pets. What dogs where you around because to me sound like the training was beat into them thats probably why they were so docile. BTW So are you
DeeJayInphinity
What makes you think the dog that chased you was properly trained? What makes you think those vicious dogs were properly trained?
No, you don't have to beat that mentality into them. German shepherds and retrievers are just tiny examples of dogs that can become VERY submissive to the point were you can just beat the crap out of them and they wont do anything. It's their mentality to be submissive and to not attack dude, they don't just decide to go against that. As I've said before, even people get stuck behind mentalities. Take a look at life-long criminals that can't go back into a "proper" life, or religious fundamentalists who will never know a life outside religion. That you don't just decide to go against. Dogs are the same. I never said they can't think for themselves. You continue to misrepresent my argument and it's getting annoying.
Maybe if you clarified your point more it would not be misinterpreted. How do you know they were not trained dogs? The dog that I was chased by was a retriever that actually followed its owners every word (keep in my mind that at this time I was only 7) that goes to show that it is not going to listen to everything. BTW No matter what you still keep repeating yourself
[QUOTE="stereointegrity"]almost as good as the world is flatfoxhound_fox
Guess you don't understand it.
From an individual's perspective, they can never know objectively what happened before they became conscious. Thus, for the individual, the universe "began" the instant they became conscious.
Well thats a touchy subject to go into but while we are on it I think you intentionally forget things when you come into this world so life can be a learning experience, anywho thats all I got to say lol.
[QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"][QUOTE="atoria56"]..not a properly trained pet. :| As I've already told you, those dogs are extremely submissive and they have "do not attack person" etched into their brains. Even people can't get away from mentalities that are engraved in their brains, what makes you think a dog can just decide to go against their mentality?Well I guess you are wrong then because a properly trained pet can attack at anytime. What we forget is those animals are living beings they can be conditioned to not do something but still decide for themselves that they want to do it.
VacantPsalm
All you're doing is repeating yourself, by the way.Not to mention if a dog does go bad we put it down, not video tape it.
Hmm thats true but have you heard about the trainer who was killed by his own bear and now they want to kill the bear. What kind of mess is that if it were not for the trainer the bear probably would not be so angry and the trainer himself would still be alive.
[QUOTE="atoria56"]..not a properly trained pet. :| As I've already told you, those dogs are extremely submissive and they have "do not attack person" etched into their brains. Even people can't get away from mentalities that are engraved in their brains, what makes you think a dog can just decide to go against their mentality?Well I guess you are wrong then because a properly trained pet can attack at anytime. What we forget is those animals are living beings they can be conditioned to not do something but still decide for themselves that they want to do it.
DeeJayInphinity
All you're doing is repeating yourself, by the way.
Omg you really believe they can not think for themselves they are living beings like, I have been chased by a well trained pet people have attacked by well trained pets. What dogs where you around because to me sound like the training was beat into them thats probably why they were so docile. BTW So are you
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