They'll probably handle it like the Halo Warthog, if you don't get it at first, you'll be able to earn it later on through a Forzathon challenge.

@chiefwiggum16: With no MP or co-op I hope you enjoy the 10 hour story, after that I guess you can find the collectibles to prolong your playtime, at least CD3 will have co-op and MP to play after the generic story is finished.

@Xristophoros: This isn't the type of game that gets a great critical reception, it will review in the 60's and 70's. Anyone expecting more than that is putting unrealistic expectations on this type of game.

@Xristophoros: To be fair we have yet to see the best parts of the game, and that's really the issue. If it bombs it's because Microsoft's marketing killed the game. Instead of showing the best parts of the game at E3, the MP destruction and co-op gameplay, they show the least interesting part of the game, the generic single player and gave it a whopping 2 minutes on stage with a lackluster trailer.

Nice, will be interesting to see how good it is and if it tunes well enough to actually use in online races.

Good to see VW's are back. Sucks they weren't in FH3.

At least one of the leaks from yesterday was correct.

@Barighm: Did you miss the part about the $6.5 Billion in profits? How does that not say anything about the success of MS, isn't the point of a business to make money? People using LIVE are up and gaming revenue is up, Xbox is doing fine.

@yukushi: Sales numbers don't tell you if someone is using it, if it's broke, just a Blu-Ray player, etc.

Let's be honest, why do you want them? It's not like you have stock in MS. Is it just so you and other fanboys can get your circle-jerk going?

He fits this game perfectly, too bad MS's marketing is killing the hype for this game. I'm not sure it can recover from the horrible E3 showing that confused more people than anything. They better hope the MP and co-op blow people away or this is going to bomb hard.