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#1 babyjoker1221
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@def_mode said:

MS has been talking about cloud for years and yet they are barely implementing it. Sony on the other hand already have services like PSNow that uses cloud.

What makes you guys think Sony is not capable of cloud? For all we know they might expand on PSNow and announce it when PS5 releases. Sony knows what they are doing and they will compete.

First. Nobody has claimed that Sony is not capable of cloud. (Whatever the hell that means.)

Second. PSNOW is available on less devices now than it was two years ago. It also hasn't expanded into regions that Sony had originally planned it to. In a sense, PSNOW has actually regressed a bit, rather than progress.

Third. Fun fact. MS used cloud compute In gaming before Sony. At least to my knowledge.

Fourth. Yes Sony know what they're doing, and they will compete. No one has suggested that Sony is getting g out of the "cloud" business as you call it.

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@mobius_basic: So MS owns the hardware correct? I've contracted in a few DC's before. Most of the time, I have no idea who runs or owns them, but occasionally I talk to a person or two there and ask just out of interest. I've been in a few that were owned by MS, or at least that's what I was told by the people I spoke to. Of course they could've just assumed or something.

Still, if MS owns the hardware, I struggle to believe that it is a severe disadvantage to do so vs Sony's option. michaelmikado certainly seems to know his stuff, but what he's claiming runs exactly counter to what MS has stated. I suppose time will tell if he's a savant or just a fanboy who wants to believe Sony has all the answers, and is versed just well enough to convince himself that he's right.

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#3 babyjoker1221
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@i_p_daily said:
@mandzilla said:

Play this one on PS4 if you really want to hear the jet engines roar! Unmatched immersion.

Yeah you can beat that immersion by watching Joe's Apartment on your PS4 lol

Bwahahahahahaha!!!!!!

Brutal.

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@the-a-baum: @ronvalencia:

You guys aren't getting it. MS's Azure network CANNOT STREAM XBOX GAMES PERIOD!!! Sony has the infrastructure in place now to currently stream any games they want because they use AWS, which uses AMD hardware. MS is at least 4 years behind Sony. On top of this, they're adding blades which is now defunct tech that Sony has already abandoned.

At this point MS is just too far behind to even attempt to stream games at any sort of large scale. They're engineers have no idea what they're doing, and XCloud can't release in 2019 or 2020. MS has to be lying at this point.

michaelmikado spelled all this out clearly. MS has nothing but Azure, which is useless for streaming xbox games.

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@ajstyles said:

The gaming industry is at its best when Sony is in a dominating lead. A Sony monopoly is a good thing.

You guys are crazy if you actually think it would be a bad thing having ALL the games on 1 console.

A monopoly would only be a bad thing when you have a bad company running it like Nintendo or Microsoft.

That’s when it would be bad. Microsoft wanted to ruin gaming with the xbone. Nintendo is just terrible at hardware.

If Sony's not paying you, you're stupid.

Not trying to sling personal insults here bud, but if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and posts like a duck well... Ya know.

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Pay attention fellow cows. People like henry here is who you've aligned yourself with.

Let that sink in for a minute. If you're okay with that, then continue on. If not.... Then welcome to adulthood.

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@mobius_basic said:

@babyjoker1221: Besides hardware, the Azure network is about 90% leased. This includes the data centers, colocations (basic space and power) and transport. Microsoft does own a few of their own data centers though but the majority are owned by major players in the data center space.

I used to work there but now help manage the Azure NA/LATAM backbone from a Pro Services viewpoint.

Interesting!

Could you clarify "Besides hardware"? They lease 90% of everything excluding the hardware, or including it?

Also, Who are the major players in data center space that own the data centers?

Honestly curious.

Edit: What are your thoughts on Azure being completely useless for streaming Xbox games?

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Read the first sentence, and was about to punch out a debatable reply about how MS's used games system was going to work, and how it might not be all that bad considering gaming has largely went digital anyway.

Then I read the rest of that drivel, and thought better of it.

OP must have amazing drugs, or was dropped as a baby.

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#9 babyjoker1221
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Color me HYPED!!!!!

Days Gone is definitely a GOTY contender! Sure we've seen games similar to this before. Haters will say that it's a knockoff Tlou game. Lems will say that they've already had their fill of Zombie games with State of Decay 1 and 2. Of course others will say that it reminds them too much of The Walking Dead with the biker aspect and all.

They're all wrong!! This game is gonna knock it out of the park!

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@mobius_basic said:
@babyjoker1221 said:

@michaelmikado: I think we're arguing slightly different points here, both at a technical level, and the broader picture overall.

MS has been heavily installing XBX VM over the last year or so into their racks, so yes... MS does have AMD GPU VM's installed, and is installing more and more everyday.

My point about it not mattering on which brand it was running on is referring to streaming games to devices in general such as pc's, tablets, phones, etc... Could Nvidia GPU VM's not work on those devices? It would seem as though you're asserting that because Azure is run primarily with Nvidia GPU's, that Azure can't stream games, which is ludicrous. Reading your last post, I'm beginning to think that you're referring explicitly about streaming to an xbox console. You would have somewhat of a point there, but again... They've already began installing AMD GPU hardware into their racks for streaming there. So while your point had merit a year ago, it really won't soon.

Adding onto all of this, is the fact that MS owns all it's infrastructure in which to put this. Sony does not. If you can't see the obvious advantages that this entails, then I really don't know what to tell you.

You're arguing both sides of te same coin here guy. On one hand you try and explain how MS is at a disadvantage because it uses Nvidia for it's VM's and won't work, but at the same time claim that Sony can partner with just anyone, and everyone, and it will be fine. Sony has very little cloud infrastructure when compared to MS. That's just a simple fact. You're actually trying to imply that that fact gives Sony some kind of advantage?

Microsoft does not own all its infrastructure for Azure. Why would you think that?

MS doesn't own it's infrastructure? Do they borrow it? Do they lease or rent it. Do tell.