Not worth original retail price. Got for £20 at my Local Game shop on sale the starter pack with 3 toys, you have to scan them in twice to be permanent on NS. But decent game only play one toon worth £20. Not Bothered about all the toys etc. Can see how kids could get addicted and peter parents to buy more.

They are lazy programmers same car and truck model in scenery, wow. Hopefully maps bigger and dlc actually dlc rather than 1 new room go through a door and end up in previous game map but enter from a different door, piss poor dlc.

I am waiting for next year when price drops as £450 is to high, plus want to see reviews if it is worth it as seems a big hype train like PS4 Pro was (yes nice 2k upscaled to 4k, but only 30fps I prefer 60fps 1080P - 60FPS at 4k is best but 10 - 12 Terra flop technology about 3 years away). So far not many native 4k titles, and I enjoy 720p gaming still on xb1-s.

Makes me laugh games cost a bomb (rip of these days with dlc etc, I have learnt and wait for game of year editions in sale). Then they give u beta access to features so you the public test for free (so they save money testing it themselves in house) and now the greedy bastards are tricking us gamers to buy a now subscription if you want to beta test (so lets see how many sheep/tw*ts sign up. Playstation now is just a garbage system.

@dinb: yes agree with you m8 i like how you can hide them on xb1, sony needs to do same and allow account name changes.

plenty of choice for folks that enjoy this and hopefully they won;t sell out like snes mini. I bought all sega games in sega pack on steam on pc for about £5 and my god they ok for 5 mins here and their but look awful these days and unplayable. I think I managed to complete sonic 1 and streets of rage 2 but was painful to try and play anything else. I have a few modern games to complete like witcher 3, metal gear solid etc so got plenty to be playing and next to these old games have not aged well.

Fed up of all these Kick starters and green light games that never get finished or seem to be in production for 20 years ffs. Its a new legal scam. I bet they all got big house and ranches etc and are laughing at us idiots for supporting them. Its a shame as then the proper small teams that work hard may never get the funding they need as people start to un-trust all this hype train for unfinished games. I think the law needs to change and they need to be more open on costs of production etc and more guarantees these will get finished.

I have pre-ordered the pc version as £30 on Cd Keys so no brainer :-). Will be much better with mouse and keyboard voice chat on ts and sorting groups out will be a lot easier on pc.

ea games will defo come as they can add to vault after a few months.

@thejudge345: yep pre-ordered mine in UK and looking forward to it. My dad has an xb1-S as he mainly uses it as a hd movie player and is cheaper than buying a standalone player (and to me makes the price of the movies etc come down as the install base goes up, Sony are greedy and hence why no uhd br player in pro as they want you to spend shit loads on a standalone player). And Only plays Pinball games on it and telltale adventure games loves them. half my mates have S and original models and only about 25% are upgrading to the X as its not for everyone but its great to have a choice and means xb1 s will drop in price.