[QUOTE="caligamer"]

[QUOTE="Sandvichman"] And i'm pretty sure that the average player didn't get more then 8 hours out of GOW, so what makes it so much different from ODST, it seems to offer less. Sandvichman

Even if it is 8 hours and ODST is 4 hours thats still 2 times more

I would say average is 10 hours for GOW3 and 5 hours for ODST

ODST does have more in terms of online which is pretty much standard now on FPS games

you asked what God of war3 has better than ODST and i said Graphics which theres no way u can deny and it also has a better campaign than ODST

Sure u can keep saying ODST is better "package" but dont say GOW3 has nothing better

[QUOTE="caligamer"]

[QUOTE="johnryandaplin"]

you never really understand the big deal until your playing, hell, the amount of times i die of the mistake thinking im still a spartan and getting killed for rushing the enemy with an SMG, and the fact that you run slower, ohhh man, that is the MAIN killer for me, and everything just seems to do too much damage

johnryandaplin

Yes they both have minor changes but nothing too different

Why would GOW make major changes to gameplay that has been called the best of hack and slah games

They changed what they could and make the graphics top notch, what else do u want

new animations for executuons maybe, stabbing a demon cat in the eye and stabbing its neck get tiring after the 1,000th time

People who like these types of games never get tired even after the 1000th time

Would u ever get tired of getting a head shot or beat down kill

[QUOTE="caligamer"]

[QUOTE="johnryandaplin"]

have you noticed that your not playing as a spartan? no? you cant dual wield, you run slower, jump lower, die easily, use health kits rather than health regen, your screen turns red when hit and so on and so forth, as for graphics, i agree

johnryandaplin

not playing as a spartan is from the story

cant dual wield and jumping lower...OMG revolutionary game changer

MY POINT IS:

Neither game really changed its gameplay...............WHY CHANGE WHAT WORKS?

as for changing what works, well , sometimes we gotta improve, in reach they are improving the gameplay, making it better than halo 3, though change could be bad too, just look at mw2, the only problem with cod 4 is the m16 and the occasional juggernaut, but now WHOA, everything is freaking noobish, i mean come on, noob tubes, pave lows, ac130s, weak man, thats why i sold mw2 and bought BC2

I think once you find something that works you should only make minor changes to perfect it.

they could make a 'halo 4' with a new story and exact same graphics and gameplay and it would sell like crazy

[QUOTE="caligamer"]

[QUOTE="johnryandaplin"]

have you noticed that your not playing as a spartan? no? you cant dual wield, you run slower, jump lower, die easily, use health kits rather than health regen, your screen turns red when hit and so on and so forth, as for graphics, i agree

johnryandaplin

not playing as a spartan is from the story

cant dual wield and jumping lower...OMG revolutionary game changer

MY POINT IS:

Neither game really changed its gameplay...............WHY CHANGE WHAT WORKS?

you never really understand the big deal until your playing, hell, the amount of times i die of the mistake thinking im still a spartan and getting killed for rushing the enemy with an SMG, and the fact that you run slower, ohhh man, that is the MAIN killer for me, and everything just seems to do too much damage

Yes they both have minor changes but nothing too different

Why would GOW make major changes to gameplay that has been called the best of hack and slah games

They changed what they could and make the graphics top notch, what else do u want

[QUOTE="caligamer"]

[QUOTE="johnryandaplin"]

ahh but games like killzone 2 differs greatly from their predecessors, but games like gow 3 stays practically the same with major graphical improvements

johnryandaplin

How is ODST so different from halo3

it doesnt have major gameplay changes OR major graphic improvement

have you noticed that your not playing as a spartan? no? you cant dual wield, you run slower, jump lower, die easily, use health kits rather than health regen, your screen turns red when hit and so on and so forth, as for graphics, i agree

not playing as a spartan is from the story

cant dual wield and jumping lower...OMG revolutionary game changer

MY POINT IS:

Neither game really changed its gameplay...............WHY CHANGE WHAT WORKS?

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[QUOTE="peanutbudduh"] That's a poor analogy. Why can't I have an opinion? I've done research on the game, I've played the demo, I've read the reviews, I've read people's opinions, I know the story, I've played the previous games too. So it's not like God of War is new to me. GOWIII is not different from the prequels because in every single review, they've said it's basically the same game. I guess I should just take their word on it right? Certainly it's not the same as meeting a girl who you've never met before and judging her on a sentence.johnryandaplin

It's an appropriate analogy actually, as the opinion would be fundamentally flawed, as not I stated you are not determining attraction, but the quality of one's personality. Which would need time together to determine.

I\ve stated this before, and it's applicable again, as the research you have done uses fractured story and gameplay elements, and offers an opinion based on an old build of the game, from almost a year before release.

Playing previous games means nothing because, if it did, games like KZ2 would be garbage, because their predecessor wasn't all that good. Makes no sense. You have to determine the game based on it's own merits aswell.

It's obvious you won't budge, even though it's been proven, repeatedly, why your opinion, and logic on this matter is extremely flawed.

You may also wish to relearn debate abilities, as it requires evidence for statements, unless they are widely known for being factually sound.

ahh but games like killzone 2 differs greatly from their predecessors, but games like gow 3 stays practically the same with major graphical improvements

How is ODST so different from halo3

it doesnt have major gameplay changes OR major graphic improvement

[QUOTE="caligamer"]

[QUOTE="Sandvichman"] 10? I got 4 times that on ODST.I fail to understand this arguement, you say that ODST is short, and doesn't matter, yet you somehow argue for GOW 3 which doesn't seem to offer more then ODST in any way possible. johnryandaplin

Just cause u got 4 times more doesnt mean most did

I could say i got over 100 hours on GOW3...

GOW3 doesnt offer anything over ODST????...........Really so the graphics are equal ?

having extemely good graphics on a new game is nothing new, hell uncharted's graphics were way better than gow 3, and besides gameplay>graphics

Obvioulsy unchartedhas better graphics than GOW3 thats PART of the reason it got such high scores Graphics do matter

Sure gameplay> graphics

but how can u compare gameplay of a hack and slah and a FPS

[QUOTE="caligamer"]

[QUOTE="Sandvichman"] 10? I got 4 times that on ODST.I fail to understand this arguement, you say that ODST is short, and doesn't matter, yet you somehow argue for GOW 3 which doesn't seem to offer more then ODST in any way possible. Sandvichman

Im pretty sure the average player did not get 40 hours worth of campaign play on ODST

Even if it is 8 hours and ODST is 4 hours thats still 2 times more

I would say average is 10 hours for GOW3 and 5 hours for ODST

[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"][QUOTE="Sandvichman"] And i played it at 8, you know, not rushing through everything. I also got a few more hours by playing it with my friends, and also by playing the survival mode, i wonder how many hours GOW 3 would give me. Sandvichman

Just cause u got 4 times more doesnt mean most did

I could say i got over 100 hours on GOW3...

GOW3 doesnt offer anything over ODST????...........Really so the graphics are equal ?

[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"][QUOTE="Sandvichman"] And i played it at 8, you know, not rushing through everything. I also got a few more hours by playing it with my friends, and also by playing the survival mode, i wonder how many hours GOW 3 would give me. Sandvichman

Im pretty sure the average player did not get 40 hours worth of campaign play on ODST