Well I don't really see the point in replaying the whole game just to include the DLC simply because most of the DLC is basically a "stand alone" mission that has no effect on the story line (aka Overlord) or designed to be played after you finished Mass Effect 2 (aka Shadow Broker). The only two DLC's that will actually have any effect by replaying the whole game is Kasumi and Zaeed. These two DLC's give you two in game squad mates that you can take on other missions but to be honest you wouldn't be missing much you can't really interact with Kasumi or Zaeed.

I tried to download the Age of Empires game, but it kept asking for the CD key so i could never continue with the install. So i think i will pass on Black Tango.

Videodogg

If you go here :-

http://uk.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=27516333

You will find information on how to obtain the cd key.

As for Blacklight: Tango Down it is 75p here in the UK and reading some of the reviews and comments I have come to the conclusion it isn't even worth that.

Oh god I so want this, as much as I love ME 2 the game is butt ugly in places in terms of the crappy textures we have to endure. Unfortunately I get the feeling this job is too big for just 1 person.

Earlier this month there was a story going around about 2 UK retailers throwing their toys out of the pram over steamworks being included in games. This is a response by Darryl Still, international publishing director for PC publisher 1C on why they like to do business with steam :-

What is more surprising is the reaction of retail now. I have read it described as the reaction of a small child who threw his toy away because he no longer wanted it, but started screaming as soon as another child picked it up to play with. The metaphor works perfectly, especially in the light of the excuse I heard on numerous occasions.

'There is no demand' went the mantra. But is this really true? Not in our experience.Darryl Still

Steam is selling decent numbers of our titles. They are really cool to work with, have a refreshing, knowledgeable developer mentality, and never bully or threaten their suppliers.Darryl Still

I remember fondly the meeting in my office with a red-faced publisher who was explaining why their initial order from a major retailer for one of our new releases was just 30 units. At the time I had my browser open on the Steam product data page, which updates sales numbers every few minutes.

"They have taken one unit for each of their top 30 stores" he told me. "There is just no demand from their customers".

I glanced at my screen, hit refresh and advised him: "In the time it's taken you to tell me that there is no demand, Steam has sold 45 units".Darryl Still

As a generalisation, retail would pay these guys a maximum of 40 per cent of what they made. So on a £29.99 game the publisher would receive about £12 (and on a sub-licensed deal, we would then only get about £4.25 of that) – minus return, write down and consignment cost.

Compare that to the digital model. On a £29.99 sale, the digital partner will pay the publisher – or in many cases direct to the developer – between 60 and 70 per cent, by the end of the month following the sale.

Wow. To recap: on a sale over the counter today, we can have our £3 by the end of March, or on a digital sale, we can have £20 by Christmas.

Remind me why we should choose to go with retail and decline to let Steam sell the game?Darryl Still

http://www.mcvuk.com/features/808/OPINION-Retail-vs-Steam

I can certainly see the reasons why publishers/developers want to do business with steam, I personally don't have a problem with steam, it is just nice to see a positivie opinion piece on the PC marketplace and I thought others might like to read it.

Well you could try checking the games for windows live client. Start that up, sign in then click the downloads button. You should see AOE 3 in your downloaded queue, under that should be an option to "view game keys". If you don't have that option or you do and there is no game key there then you probably best to get in touch with MS about it.

Not really my cup of tea, I generally don't have much interest in Western themed games so RDR would at best be a $5 steam sale purchase. I also wouldn't trust Rockstars ability to get anything to run decently on a PC either. They did a hell of a lot of damage to their rep on the PC with GTA 4 (not that their rep was all that high in the first place on the PC). So if there was any kind of port of RDR to the PC it would be a cheap knock off 5 minute job like GTA 4 was.

Why do you say that though? It's the perfect way to advertise a re-launch. Steam did sales too when they did their UI overhaul. Hell, Direct2Drive did it when they revamped their SEARCH ENGINE. In fact, when Valve released the Mac version of steam, they gave away Portal for FREE. Are you going to say that was "desperation" ? No, it was marketing. This is common practice.kieranb2000

Yeah you see when D2D revamped their search engine and Valve released the Mac version of steam the offers were on LAUNCH of the improved services. This AOE 3 deal is a week after GFWL relaunch. So a week after they launched their service they are now offering this deal, how can you not see this could be construed as "desperation" ?

You just need to look at the posts in here, when this deal was discovered most thought it was a mistake. Historically Valve has always been generous to their customers. If Valve had done this deal on their service no one would have gone "OMGZ that must be a mistake". Microsoft have never had a history of being generous, in fact they are far from generous and will nickel and dime you to hell and back if they can. Yet all of a sudden a week after launch they do this deal ???

Uhhh...believe what you want to believe. The truth of the matter is MS owns the AoE franchise, and publishing rights, and shut down the developers AND AoE stopped selling a long time ago. They lowered the price to this for the sole reason that they could.kieranb2000

I know they own the A0E franchise, they lowered the price to GET people to USE their service. It is a "loss leader" you offer a deal like this to get people in the "virtual door" hoping they will spend more. Now that isn't very promising if it is happening less than a week after their great grand "re-launch".

I take it you haven't actually BEEN to the GFWL site recently? They have been having deals like this every day SINCE the 15th of November, to get more publicity and encourage more people to see the new relaunch.kieranb2000

Erm no they haven't, they haven't had a single game on sale at the GFWL marketplace for 10p until now. They were selling GTA 4 for about £7.50, then it was Dawn of War for a tenner if I remember and then they had Bioshock for £1.99. In short their deals have struggled to match anything that steam has to offer during their various sales. So in order to actually get people to USE the service they have resorted to this 10p deal with AOE III, it just smells of desperation.

Edit: To all the people saying it's a mistake - GFWL is having a relaunch soon so this gets the word around about the service. StormtrooprDave

Ah but here is the funny bit, they have already had their re-launch. The Marketplace was relaunched on the 15th November 2010 and less than a week later they are having to resort to cheap tricks like this to actually get people to use the service :roll: .