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#1 darth-pyschosis
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[QUOTE="pikaby"]

[QUOTE="Nintendo_Ownes7"]

Because their is no room internally. When they finally wanted to add it they would've had to change the whole design and make it wider and thicker then the 3DS already is.

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Yeah, but once the inevitable 3DS remodel comes out it's almost definitely going to have the extra buttons and nub which destroys the whole purpose of making this half-hearted accessory. I'm not saying the accessory is bad, just that the timing of release is terrible.

'Destroys the whole purpose of the accessory'? The way I see it, purpose of the add-on is to add functionality so that folks like me who spent the dough won't have to go out and buy a whole new system when the twin stick 3DS hits. If Nintendo just came out and said "Look a new 3ds with 2 sticks!" Without the add%on the early adopter would've rioted!

The point is there will not be a redesign with this built in. They wouldn't be changing 3DS boxes to say whether it can be used for said game or not. There is no way they fit the extra shoulder buttons into any portable that isn't the size of a Wii U Controller, which in turn is the size of an iPad. It won't happen, this will be an optional accessory for at least the next 3-4 years and likely until the 3DS2 or whatever comes, meaning not until next generation. Also, they would have to change boxes a 2nd time if they added the 2nd stick in a redesign to say "compadible with Expansion Kit 2.0!" because they still won't be able to add the two shoulder buttons. They won't do that. It's a c(lassic) controller for a handheld, and I for one have calmed down and I am looking forward to this exciting accessory.
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#2 darth-pyschosis
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[QUOTE="flax174"]its disgusting what nintendo are doing, they should of put the 2nd analog nub in the launch design of the 3ds. it looks ugly and looks very uncomfortable and conviently expensive. i am not gonna purchase this, they think they are making more money by bringing this out, but there not cause i for one am not gonna buy it, and none of the games that support it either, so there in fact losing money. i use to like nintendo but not anymore its just a obviously pathetic cash grab! not that i play any home console anymore anyway.

It isn't just a second analog stick. You should get a job at Nintendo if you think you can design a portable the size of a DS Lite with 4 shoulder buttons and 2 sticks. So did you not buy the PS Move, Kinect, the Xbox 360 Controller with Twisting D-Pad, the PS1 Dual Shock Controller, the Wii c(lassic) controller, Wii Motion Plus?
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#3 darth-pyschosis
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Honestly the main issue I have is that it's basically showing that Nintendo didn't add it from the beginning and they should have, and I'm sure that they could have done it if they made some changes to the design. It's also just a bit ugly if you ask me. :P

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Stop acting like they could, if you're so good at designing mobile products tell me how you keep the device the size of a DS Lite while having 4 shoulder buttons and two sticks?
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#4 darth-pyschosis
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There won't be a 'duel' stick 3DS. Since when was there talk of a 3DS with two control sticks that fight with each other?

Sarcasm aside... I really don't know if there is going to be a 3DS redesign with dual-sticks, but neither does the OP. Nintendo released the freaking wii nunchuck and wii remote plus and all of this other crap because they screwed up when they made the Wii. And sadly, none of those peripherals were a big improvement over the original. So the OP really doesn't know what they are talking about.

The OP must also not understand how big a difference two control sticks make in modern games, and how releasing the 3DS with two control sticks to begin with would have given developers a much wider array of control options for games.

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You can't blame Nintendo. You can't add the shoulder buttons and the second stick without making the device non-portable or ugly. Could Nintendo build the c(lassic) controller into the Wii Remote? Probably? Would it be bulky, useful, or even look good? No. Plus, WM+ was way to expensive for them to launch in 2006 plus the Wii was such a gamble they had to cut certain things.
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#5 darth-pyschosis
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Hey, everybody look here. This post, right here. Here is why they will not add the second pad, or extra two shoulder buttons into the eventual 3DS redesign and keep this add on as just that, an optional add on: They can't add it without making thing not portable. The shoulder buttons are way too big to be built in. This is actually a pretty well designed accessory if you read all the hands on. Everyone says it is comfy, and honestly it is going to be cheap and likely BUNDLED with systems in the future. In short, the fact that the game boxes will say "Slide Pad Expansion Optional" indicates that this is going to be an add on for a long time to come just like the Wii (C(lassic) controller. Sure, it could end up like Wii Motion Plus, but you've got to remember eventually they just added the dongle for WM+ into all Wii bundles. WM+ costed the same as this add on too. WM+ was small enough to add to the remote, but I don't think anyone can see a handheld with FOUR shoulder buttons working out. So in short, everyone calm down. Its a cheap add on like the c(lassic) controller. Don't buy it if you don't want to, and if they are adding the "Expansion Optional" to games like KH3D which likely won't release in the west until Late 2012, then you shouldn't worry about a redesign until 2013 at the earliest and it may not include the expansion
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#6 darth-pyschosis
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With the analog add on yes it is, since it gives the 3DS only 3 shoulder buttons like the Cube controller. It is true to an extent and I'm loving the similarites, at least in terms of raw power.
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#7 darth-pyschosis
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That is actually a well thought out and sound statement. Technically the 3DS and Vita may be "competing against each other" but really the markets of people who are going to purchase a Vita is going to be different than the market who buys a 3DS give the difference of the two devices and the types of games they both have.

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The market who buys a Vita is gamers, and there aren't a lot of nice core gamers who spend money. Why? Look at the Dreamcast. Lot of support for core gamers, no casual support, it died quick. Sony marketed the PSP at core gamers in NA and EU the whole gen and averaged a pathetic 2-5 million units per year in those regions for the last few years when the DS was hitting 15-20 million per year. Nintendo goes after gamers, and the casuals. Everybody. Marketing towards gamers only is stupid, silly business practice that I can't believe they are going with again this generation. In works in Japan kinda, but Japan is a small nation.
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#8 darth-pyschosis
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You cant lose if you say you were never playing. Ninja-Hippo
LeBron now has he's next excuse for the press about not getting those 6-8 rings. Just like Sony.
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#9 darth-pyschosis
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They said the same thing about the Wii, but look who came out with the Move. People, don't like they aren't in the same market. That's such a cop out. Vita/3DS are in the same market, one appeals to everyone (like it should) and one is trying to appeal to only gamers. iOS/Android aren't in the same market IMO. Wait as Sony adds 3D to the PSV2 or a PSV Slim in 2013 or 2015 and tell me whether they were competiting with the 3DS Well I guess they aren't competiting, since I would call being outsold being very competitive, ZING! Seriously, this is pre-damage control by Sony. They know they will be outsold by the 3DS and they just want to stop the bleeding. I bet they didn't even think about how well the price drop continues to do in Japan (like 50k a weak roughly, let alone MH3G the week before Vita releases) I also think Nintendo got the edge on Sony in that the price drop AFTER the Vita's price was announced. Sony might have gone with $300 for the WiFi version if they knew getting the $169 Price Point of the 3DS was out of reach, BUT they thought the 3DS would stay $250 Sony going out of their way to price the Vita at the same price as the 3DS is saying they know who their competitor. If they're in such a market on their own with the Vita why not sell it for a friggin' profit like a normal business?
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#10 darth-pyschosis
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Calm down, every console has their remakes and ports. It is how developers get use to the hardware by basically testing old content to see the boundaries of the new hardware. People really need to stop acting like this isn't normal, sure its not what you would want but then don't buy a console within its first 6-12 months. I'd be upset if in Fall 2012 or Spring 2013 we have nothing but remakes. If you think its bad on 3DS, look at the port machine that the Vita is going to become with all its multi-plat games from the HD Twins. (Not to be off topic, but the 3DS's remakes and ports should really stop in the next year or so, so don't worry)