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#1 deleteduser198
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[QUOTE="my_name_is_ron"][QUOTE="Kid-Atari"][QUOTE="BeErBOnG29"]I like Apple products as much as the next person, but I don't know what the amazement is. Half of the upgrades should have been in the 4S. The other half are marginal at best, with the biggest being a minor increase in screen size. Lightning connector? How is this even a highlight. It renders all of our old peripherals obsolete without purchasing a connector. Since they made the change, they should have made it easier on EVERYONE and went mini-USB. But nah, we must really need to have proprietary parts. All in all, a good looking phone, but a very minor upgrade unless you truly feel the need to upgrade your screen by .5".

How is going from an A5 chip to an A6 a minor upgrade? That's twice the CPU speed and twice the graphic horsepower of the 4S. What did you want? A quadruple increase? That's not possible. Pair that with the bigger screen size, the surprising reduction in thickness and weight, and the new glass technology, it's quite a substantial upgrade. Definitely nothing "minor"

I don't thInk a very large proportion of the iPhone owning public will care or even understand what type of processor is in the phone. If you're a 4s owner there's no point in getting the 5. If you've got an earlier iPhone then it may be worth upgrading. I think the announcement was very underwhelming and the new charger is possibly the most cynical, money grabbing idea I've ever seen. Steve jobs must be turning in his grave

Of course there's a point in upgrading to the 5. Several of them, in fact. Double the speed, double the graphics, larger display, noticeably thinner and lighter, and obviously LTE since the 4S doesn't have that. More than enough reason to upgrade. Silly billy.
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[QUOTE="BeErBOnG29"]I like Apple products as much as the next person, but I don't know what the amazement is. Half of the upgrades should have been in the 4S. The other half are marginal at best, with the biggest being a minor increase in screen size. Lightning connector? How is this even a highlight. It renders all of our old peripherals obsolete without purchasing a connector. Since they made the change, they should have made it easier on EVERYONE and went mini-USB. But nah, we must really need to have proprietary parts. All in all, a good looking phone, but a very minor upgrade unless you truly feel the need to upgrade your screen by .5".

How is going from an A5 chip to an A6 a minor upgrade? That's twice the CPU speed and twice the graphic horsepower of the 4S. What did you want? A quadruple increase? That's not possible. Pair that with the bigger screen size, the surprising reduction in thickness and weight, and the new glass technology, it's quite a substantial upgrade. Definitely nothing "minor"
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The iPhone 5 has arrived, and it sure looks nice.

Main highlights:

- 4 inch screen. Nice to see that they extended the display without compromising how comfortable the iPhone was to hold and use with one hand. Definitely the right move here. Virtual buttons and virtual sticks will definitely be better now that they're off to the sides even more this way.

- Updates to all wireless features, even speedier WiFi. HSPA+, DC-HSDPA and LTE support. WiFi protocol has also been updated & now features 2.4ghz & 5ghz on 802.11n.

- A6 Chip. 2X the CPU performance and a whopping 2X the graphical power of the 4S. Just wow. The 4S graphic capabilities were no slouch. The A6 chip ensures the iPhone's dominance and further cements it in the gaming industry.

- Battery will allow for 8 hours of continuous talk time, 10 hours of video, 40 hours of music and an impressive 225 hours of standby before requiring a charge.

- The new camera features an 8 megapixel sensor & f/2.4 aperture. Apple also included a dynamic low-light mode. The camera is also 40% faster at photo capture than the 4S.

- New lightning connector. The iPhone 5 will not utilize the 30-pin connector all Apple handheld devices have used since 2003. Instead the new phone will feature a new, smaller "lightning" connector. It's reversible, so no more fumbling in the dark to get your device plugged in. You can plug it in using any orientation. It's also 80% smaller than the original dock connector.

- 20% thinner, 20% lighter. How they managed to do this while doubling the raw processing power and graphic ability is pretty amazing. An iPhone 5 inserted in an average case would equal a naked iPhone 4S. They maximized the thickness reduction by replacing the old dock connector with the lightning port.

- With a contract, the iPhone 5 will cost $199 for a 16GB device, $299 for 32GB and $399 for 64GB. iPhone 5 starting at $199? Who said Apple was overpriced?

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#4 deleteduser198
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[QUOTE="mahlasor"]

Simple really, he is one of those apple sheep.

mystic_knight
Please try to refrain from system wars talk here please. As much as Kid Atari is favourable to iOS and as much as we discuss the differences between each i don't want all the system wars talk here. Kid Atari is still a great user on these boards. Even if he does appreciate Apple more than your average user :P

Well no kidding, Captain Obvious. What do you think this Apple iOS forum was intended for? For folks like me that appreciate Apple and iOS more than the respective competition. You know what I find peculiar? That there are a number of obvious Fandroids that frequently post or respond with their disdain for Apple right here. Note how you don't see anyone from the Apple forum invading the Android forum talking about "how inferior their products are and how we disagree with Google as a company." You're guilty of this too, sometimes. :b Don't want system wars in this forum? Keep Android owners in their forums, and iOS owners in this one. The solution isn't as far fetched, unless you secretly love seeing these system-arguments pop up exclusively here on the Apple forum. It's surprising that a particular few Android fans are allowed to keep participating in these discussions under the context of this Apple forum as if they have anything meaningful to discuss with iOS users when it's already been made clear over and over that they: 1. Own an Android device 2. Dislike Apple 3. Dislike iOS Hmmmmmm............... Where and when does the blurred line of "forum invasion" sharpen more into clarity?
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How did google lose leverage if motorola licensed something to apple? Google is the parent whatever motorola does is by google's consent. Now google earns royalties from iOS.

I dont think you can enforce a ban if the company agrees to pay license unless you infringe on something too serious like trying to copy a company logo or something.

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They lost leverage because instead of recieving a large sum of money through damages and a possible ban of particular iOS devices, Motorola settled for a licensing agreement which amounts to just over 1%. That 1% is completely hilarious. Google spent 12.5 BILLION to purchase Motorola in hopes of being able to protect Android from litigation. Ironically, the only thing they can protect Android from are redundant standard-essentials, of which Motorola had no problem licensing them to Apple for such a low amount. Meanwhile, Apple won 1.2 billion in its case against Samsung, and Android still gets to remove the features infringing on Apples patents. This is Googles lost leverage. It has no meams of defending numerous Android instances and has no means of even pursuing Apple in court if they easily came into a licensing agreement with Motorola patents Sounds like a complete waste of 12.5 billion dollars.
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http://www.cultofmac.com/187477/google-loses-their-leverage-as-motorola-and-apple-reach-licensing-deal-in-germany/ Looks like it's about done. WiFi patents? And people called Apples UI patents "broad" and "over-reaching"
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I dont think apple will make a TV because they already make the apple cinema display monitors which have had absolutely no serious impact on the market. Apple always differentiates itself with the software but since thats not really an important part of a TV/monitor so it's difficult for apple to succeed.

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Apple "only" innovates through software? Did you forget they've been developing and designing hardware for the past 40 years?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cq5zHP1Ck0

You all should watch this video (arby n the chief). It illustrates how erroneous it is to claim someone was first in something, therefore no once can do it in their own way... It is bs that Apple has people convinced that they completely on their own made the idea for phones that are completely touch screen. It was inevitable, it was going to happen, obviously Apple has the most money, so they probably could get their first. If Samsung really just merely copied Apple, why wouldnt I just get the Apple, because copies usually are not going to be nearly as good. Samsung makes Iphones, so obviously there are going to be similiarities. But in reality, the Samsung phone is a really different one. I felt the iphone, what a brick... FFS if this was about patent infringing, why wait until the Samsung Galaxy S3?

I admit, I do not understand the whole issue, but as a consumer I really do not trust Apple's intentions. Well I have heard about how they are copying eachother, it sounds like one thing has lead to another. Maybe technically they did, but lets be honest, havent we seen a lot of these cases that are really dumb? Like for example, why do they wait until the product is out to make all this commotion, then sue? Everyone knew it was coming out, but they waited until the company had done a lot to say anything. They should of tried preventing the device from coming out, hmmmm? If it was really infringing, right? For one thing using two fingers on a touch screen device is kind of a given. I didnt even know the feature was there, but I automatically assumed that I use two fingers to zoom.

edit: Also both have been copying eachother, so Apple is not innocent, this is mostly America politics.

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Would like to correct you in saying that Apple was indeed the first one to use a capacitive touchscreen equipped with multi-touch technology on a phone. Touch screen devices prior to the iPhone were using resistive screen technology and was limited to single finger input. And the statement that touchscreen only phones were an "obvious" thing is COMPLETELY incorrect. If it was so obvious, why was it that Apple suffered condemning backlash from the entire tech industry on the day of the iPhone reveal? How many companies, industry "experts," and even a lot of these Fandroids refer to the iPhone reveal as "GIMMICK," "NO KEYBOARD OR BUTTONS = PHAIL," and all the doom and gloom predictions that claimed the iPhone was dead on arrival? Suddenly, after the second million iPhone sold, every company and their mother doles out their own version of the iPhone. Suddenly, it's become "Apple didn't innovate anything. Google is the real innovator." Horse crap.
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[QUOTE="musicalmac"]

Imagine how Google (an ad revenue driven company with little to no hardware manufacturing experience) Gambler_3

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAd

You're referencing Apple's year-old foray in mobile advertising. What point were you trying to make?
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[QUOTE="musicalmac"]>You have to remove your personal stake in this matter to think clearly about it.mystic_knight
I already outlined i actually do not like samsung or apple products, and for the record i have an apple product and no samsung product in the mobile world. The last thing i am is biased to either side of this war. I am saying things objectively from an outside point of view. Galaxy S and tab were rip offs and Apple had every right to sue samsung for those products. Thats all i can support apple with, the rest is BS. Trust me i know what i am talking about and i have done my research, you may disagree with my opinions which i am sure you do, just as i do not agree with yours entirely. but it doesn't mean the system is right.

If you really did your research then you would easily find that many other samsung models infringe on several patents and wouldn't have a hard time wrapping your mind around that