This could be a big coup for the wiiU as Bayonetta was this gens genre defining hack and slash. I wonder howits going to play on that horrible looking wiiU controller though. ccagracing

To be honest the controller is actually really nice. And at worst case im sure you can use a pro controller, which is pretty similar to the 360 controller. 

It really is funny to see sheep care about graphics after so long :lol: Desmonic

Well if we're going to invest $350 dollars in a new console, we'd like to see the games look better. Fact is a 360 and ps3 can give you great games, ps2 can give you great games, the playstation can, the snes etc. I'm sure Wii U will have great games, but it they look equivalent to what I have already, what incentive do i have t o pick it up, at least until it becomes much cheaper?? I guess the tablet controller is what they are hoping will sell it, but honestly it's not as exciting as the thought of being able to actually swing a sword with the wiimote when the wii was first released. 

It's not being a graphics whore, it's just whats expected with each new generation of games. 

Google the megahertz myth, performance can be increased by increasing the clock speed or by reducing the cycles per instruction. In the industry you will see 2.2 GHZ processor outperform a 3.0 GHZ processor even though it has a lower clock speed. I'm gonna quote an apple video, please forgive me for doing this but to me it seems to be a pretty decent explanation

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKF9GOE2q38

Now granted, some of the ports from the 360 and ps3 to the wii u had some performance woes, so it's very possible that the CPU is worse than the 360/ps3. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

I wouldn't buy a 3rd party game on the Wii U even if it did have the support.

TheEpicGoat

why not??

When you have the best third-party in the 8th generation its hard for devs to saty away. Capcom will be the 21st third-party dev for the Wii U, which is more devs than Xbox 360 and PS3 got in in the first YEAR and a HALF individually and over half of them combined. The Wii U is selling to fast that it would hurt to try and catch it. I think this year headstart will cuase massive damage to Sony leading to bankruptcy and the Xbox to result to lowering the price at a great loss. in the end The Wii U will win the generation with Xbox in second and something not Sony in third.StaticOnTV

go home man, you're drunk!

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[QUOTE="mariokart64fan"]

lol sony never learned ---psvita any one ,  

ya i dont think so ps4 will be lucky to outsell wiius current pace lol 

deomag4

what wrong with the Vita? The system's like 10 times more powerful and innovative than the 3DS for the same launch price. Just think about that and how Nintendo tried to rip you off and then again with the Wii U. Freaking shameless bastards....

Except nintendo has a proven track record with their handhelds while sony doesn't have that same reputation yet. Also while the vita technically is $250, if you count their proprietary memory cards that price skyrockets. Hell any SD card works on the 3ds (to an extent) if im not mistaken. And 3D without glasses was kind of *neat when it first was unveiled*, it was overpriced by nintendo appropriately gave it a $75 price cut. Sony still hasn't budged yet. 

sorry didn't finish that statement

[QUOTE="mariokart64fan"]

lol sony never learned ---psvita any one ,  

ya i dont think so ps4 will be lucky to outsell wiius current pace lol 

Gue1

what wrong with the Vita? The system's like 10 times more powerful and innovative than the 3DS for the same launch price. Just think about that and how Nintendo tried to rip you off and then again with the Wii U. Freaking shameless bastards....

Except nintendo has a proven track record with their handhelds while sony doesn't have that same reputation yet. Also while the vita technically is $250, if you count their proprietary memory cards that price skyrockets. Hell any SD card works on the 3ds (to an extent) if im not mistaken. And 3D without glasses was kind of cool, it was overpriced by nintendo appropriately gave it a $75 price cut. Sony still hasn't budged yet. 

(Preface: I love all consoles and maufacterers....)

Well what I hope is that Nintendo remains number one. But I don't think that will happen. I feel like Microsoft will attain the number one spot with Nintnedo a close second. Sadly that leaves Sony in third but somebody has to take it.

Darth-Samus

I want nintendo to make a profit and do reasonably well, but hopefully at the same time bad enough so that they realize that just building a hardware mechanic alone won't put them at the top. I want them to go back to what they used to do, innovate with their software and keep the console simple but powerful enough with each iteration, only adding changes if the software is in need of it (the analog stick for example). 

The gamecube and N64 struggled because they alienated 3rd party developers (hell yamauchi explicitly admitted he made the n64 difficult to develop for as a way to drown out less talented 3rd party developers or something crazy like that), and still did good enough for nintendo to make a profit. You get a nintendo console that is sensible, doesn't cut back on things that make you scratch your head, and have strong 3rd party support, i am convinced they would have no issue getting back on top, or right along their xbox and playstation counterparts. 

hopefully wii u gets decent 3rd party support, though its almost not worth it if the console is going to show off games that are at a level or two below their next gen counterparts. Honestly I would love nothing more than a console with nintendo titles and strong 3rd party support that visually is on par with it's competitor consoles. 

I mean the wii was okay because it was cheap enough that people didn't mind investing the money to have it as the social console (the one where you invite friends over and play wii sports and smash bros) as a complement to your primary gaming device.

But the Wii U is $300-$350, and while dual screens are kind of cool on a portable where the graphics aren't as big of a concern, on a home console i like my consoles to have at least some staying power. I'm not into the 10 year generations that people throw out for this next gen, i always felt 5-6 year iterations were healthier for the industry, but if we get another nintendo gen like the last one where the console doesn't age well at all, i'll be pretty bummed.

Though hopefully it will give nintendo the swift kick to the rear to regain their senses and get back to doing what they used to do best: making great, innovative software for their hardware, not the other way around. 

note: I have a wii u and it's a lot of fun, but im not gonna lie and say im not a bit apprehensive towards what it will be like 2-3 years from now. 

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I thought they were having a nintendo direct in a couple weeks focusing exclusively on 3rd party games?

Nintendo_Ownes7

They mentioned that you could make Wii U games with HTML5, Javascript, or with the Unity Engine.

To be honest, i hope that isn't all it is (though it seems logical). I have to imagine nintendo has at least one surprise under their belt in terms of 3rd party.