please SJW and politics DON'T belong in a game review! Wtf do you do that?!
also a 5?! lol
I liked this site, but from some time I have much more trust in steam reviews ... I came back here from time to time, only to find reviews like this... shame!
@doomsdayhell01: well epic is at fault here, not apple. sure banning unreal is extreme, but beside that unreal did broke the license agreement. I hate both companies , but epic is at fault here. Don't make you hatred towards apple not see the truth.
@gargar:"i have to be 5yo to hate somebody" you missed the "?!" at the end...
now i understand why you love epic. you use the same stupid tactics!
but spending time defending a greedy corporation is not childish?! lol!
i don't spend time to hate them. i just hate them, avoid buying from them and get along with my life. also ad hominem is not an argument. spend time attacking my arguments, not me!
I don;t hate them, but I hate EA. I don't thin buying a smaller company is a bad thing it you don't close them like EA did. I rarely hate a company as a hole (i can;t say i didn't play sims, or FIFA either). I have actions they do. I have hates stuff MS or sony did at some point. Now I hate that Epic does.
loooooool what sony or ms or nintendo do (btw MS exclusives are xbox+PC, not only xbox) is completely different of what epic does. but to be fair i do hate exclusives as a hole. epic introduces exclusives on ps which is far worst!
Also stop telling me what to hate and what to not hate! And you acuse me of being childish ?! lol!
"Look how made you are about a launher. A free launcher. This is just childish." - something else that "childish" you know?! That's your "argument"?! Again i don't have a problem with another launcher, i have a problem with the way they choose to do business!
EGP has 20% AT MOST of the features steam has! I want to use the best platform and epic instead of making EGS the best, they choose to force me to switch by bribing developers?! No thanks!
You seem to forget that EPG has much less features that basically any other launcher , but asks for the same price!
"And unreal is not a "bit" better for AAA. It's unbelivebaly better. The amount of works need to get high quality 3d rendiring in Unreal compared to Unity is mind blowingly smaller. There is a reason why you don't see many AAA games with unity." - AHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA . you have no ideea what you are talking about! you just use some big words for things you don't understand!
You are an epic fanboy and no matter what everybody say, they are the best... sorry i tried!
You are taking this discussion into a completely different direction. We started just from the fact that epic didn;t respect a license agreement and then they are taking google and apple to court. but you think they are the "good guys"... yeah! right!
@gargar: why ? i have to be 5yo to hate somebody or to have an opinion?! lol
i hate them because of what they do. they are just evil. probably even more evil than EA (and that's actually hard to do).
valve doesn't force people to sell them only on they'r store!
overwatch is made by blizzard, it's they'r right. don't compare that with buying exclusives.
you say epic is good, and then you say it's business. lol. make up your mind!
i love how you ignore 90% of what i write...
unreal might be a little better for aaa games , but in the end both engine can make the same things. unreal is not that much better and unity is catching up.
when they first came in (before the exclusives). I was happy, i wanted more competition. They made me hate them. I didn't hate them by default because they where steam competitor!
I know they are competitors, but epic does everything wrong they just want to win, they don't care if they win with a better product or with a better lawyer.
they are not good. they just want to crush the competitor by any means necessary.
- 5% for the game engine is actually worst than 200Euros/month/seat (unity price for pro) if you make big money. oh and btw, unity is free if you make less than 100k/year!
- 12% does sound better but it will go to the publisher, not developer (in most cases). and for me as a gamer (most of the time :D) i also care about a good store, which i doubt egs can be with that cut. they told that they can have regional prices because the cut is too low! it's good for the publisher, but not so good for gamers. small games might not be profitable for a store if a cut is too low and they might be not accepted to that store, so bad for indies. why do you think epic doesn't accept small games? because they are not producing money.
- this war with google and apple was made by epic. they had everything prepared: the video, the lawsuit etc. they broke the license agreement on porpuse. yea , the unreal engine ban was extreme, but that doesn't erase the fact that epic started all this. Do you really thing that things will be better with less cuts for big companies?! they will be for bigger companies, but for a small developer they will not! aple and google will simply don;t care about they'r IAP platform if they can't make money out of it and the prices will be the same for the costumer!
This is just a battle betreen big companies in which one company wants to be more powerful (epic). in this kind of battles there's always someone who looses: the costumer!
PS: why didn't they also fight BFG which take more than 30% if they are good? oh, because they are not competitors! They are doing this only to screw the competitors (in apple and google care both to screw them and to make more money) and NOT for the greater good!
1 - please tell me what did i said wrong? epic didn't broke the license agreement? the fact that epic did this on porpuse makes even more clear that it's they'r fault!
2 - of course epic was expecting it! of course they did this on purpose!
3 - why do you think apple will loose?
i think epic is fighting everybody and many people don't even realize it. they are fighting steam, but also gamers (by forcing them to use a specific platform). they are fighting google and apple, but also indies (if they will win and the 30% cut will be illegal, neither apple or google will care about IAP anymore and this will hurt indies who can't make an IAP server like epic). they are just a greedy company! they don't want to pay 30% to apple, but they have no problem in putting loot boxes at obscene prices.... a smaller than 30% cut may make services (like steam, IAP. console gaming - probably they'll be next if epic will win - etc) to be worst.
if the EU and others will give epic the win, they will make things worst. apple is bad, google is also kinda bag, but epic is worst!
@Thanatos2k: they are rights in the sense that epic violate they'r agreement.
Yes, the unreal engine move is extreme.
it was done probably because apple realized epic was expecting this (the lawsuit files very fast against both apple and google, the video against apple etc). epic has done this on purpose. and apple wanted to surprise them. while I don't agree with what apple did regarding unreal engine, you have to admit that epic did a d**k move (like they did with steam etc). They'r model of business is to fight with everybody
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