That's easy. With, provided it's done well.

FFXII had some of the best voice acting ever heard in games...how can that possibly be a detriment?

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For the record, Prologue is more than a "small piece." We imported the Japanese version late last year and did a hands-on...trust me, it took a while. There's a lot more here than many of you are realizing.

It's absolutely worth the price of admission for racing fans. Not saying it's for everyone, of course.

DJ_Lae

It still contains about a quarter of the content of GT4, and that's being pretty generous. I'd call that a small piece, especially given their decision to push the sticker so close to the price of a full game. Even if you compare it to Forza 2, which itself has less content than GT4 or Forza 1, it comes up remarkably short.

I'm sure it's pretty cool, and there is part of me that's tempted because I love GT and racing games, but this whole thing is like paying for a meal and then being led into the kitchen to sample some of the ingredients instead.

I'm not arguing that the price isn't for everyone, but I will say this "demo" is about three times bigger than the largest demo you can find. We should be comparing it to other DEMOS, not full games. I am aware of the $40 price tag, but for hardcore racing enthusiasts (and trust me, I know a few), the price isn't even something to consider.

Also, check your PMs.

For the record, Prologue is more than a "small piece." We imported the Japanese version late last year and did a hands-on...trust me, it took a while. There's a lot more here than many of you are realizing.

It's absolutely worth the price of admission for racing fans. Not saying it's for everyone, of course.

There's more than enough evidence to support the theory that video games (and any other form of media) have a direct impact on children's minds. Any psychologist will tell you that during the crucial development phase, a human soaks up just about any information he/she sees/hears. It lays the framework for the adult that person will eventually become. To say video games, movies, music and any other form of entertainment that involves "absorption" has NO effect on a child is completely ridiculous, but to imply it has an automatic negative effect is equally ridiculous. Unfortunately, due to the violent nature of most video games, it has indeed been proven - many times, in fact - that such games will certainly increase the aggressive behavior of children. They're more likely to respond to a conflict with physical violence, more likely to disobey a parent or authority figure, etc.

But for fully developed - and mentally stable - adults, no, I don't believe video games or any other form of entertainment poses a legitimate threat. Furthermore, there is no evidence to support the idea that those over the age of 18 are negatively (or positively) impacted by video games or movies or whatever. This is why I'm a firm supporter of the ESRB and the MPAA, because you'd have to be naive to think playing GTA or watching Hostel doesn't have any effect on an 8-year-old...and that effect certainly wouldn't be positive. The bottom line is that video games is nothing more than "input" to any developing child, just like everything else that child comes into contact with. This input is taken in and processed; there's no way around it. The primary difference is that an adult has the capability to separate fact from fiction, reality from fantasy, and socially acceptable behavior vs. antisocial behavior. The child hasn't experienced enough of life to accurately do this, which is why I will never support the idea that "anybody" can play supremely violent video games.

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The game looked nice and all, but it still feels exactly like the last DMC game I played, which was part one. Walk through a gothic hallway, beat up a couple marionette zombies, walk some more. Sure its nice to try and get your combos up above the "D" level, but it didn't add much to the original, and it doesn't seem to add much to this one.

Its still on my list of "maybe" games, but I'm not sure.

smerlus

it's like you read my mind and typed out what I wanted to say. I've played the first DMC and loved it, The second threw me off of the series and while I've heard great things about the third... I skipped it because I had already played the glory that is Ninja Gaiden.

DMC 4 was in the "probably not going to get it" side of my brain but the demo bumped it up to maybe... after a lower price or something

Wrong analysis from CrimsonpugTwo in the first place. Didn't "add" much to the original? Umm...being able to grab enemies isn't exactly a minor addition; it's a major gameplay mechanic that completely changes how we approach battles. Furthermore, while I too wanted more variety from the enemies, the ice monsters weren't marionettes and Berial was insane-looking. There was also a wide variety of areas in the demo; the "gothic" theme didn't show up in the docks area, nor was it really noticeable in the winter scene or the battle with Berial amongst rundown shacks.

Anybody who says DMC4 isn't much different than the original DMC either didn't even bother to play the demo, or has no idea what they're looking at.

I've seen and played both demos by now - just finished playing the PS3 demo; it's on the Japanese Store - and I'm definitely getting the PS3 version. Of course, I was going to do that anyway just because I learned how to play DMC with the Sony controller, so it's like going back to an old friend. Heh.

Anyway, I think both demos are pretty similar, but the PS3 version appeared slightly better on my TV. I had the settings maxed at 1080p, which I doubt the demo was displayed in, but it just seemed as if the PS3 version looked a bit sharper. I doubt the resolutions are different for the two demos. The game kicks ass, plain and simple, and it's guaranteed to be one of the best action games of 2008; I can't make it any clearer than that. I would've liked to see a bit more in the way of enemy design diversity - too much "marionette-like" style - but Belial was awesome. As for the difficulty, I liked it just fine, but I'm from the school of thought that says the game doesn't need to be brutally difficult to be good. As is the case with the God of War games, we're supposed to be playing as this super-powerful half-supernatural bad-ass, so why should we always feel as if we're struggling to survive? Besides, if Capcom wants to sell a lot of copies, they won't make the mistake of messing up the "Normal" and "Hard" settings as they did in the original DMC3 that came to NA. They fixed it with the Special Edition, but I was PISSED that I had to beat the game on Hard without even knowing it.

Anyway, it's a must-play. No ifs, ands or buts about it. :)