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#1 frannkzappa
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You'd have to go overseas for that, then. Not going to happen in any Western civilization. Try Southeast Asia, or maybe South America?

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yeah back when i was huge into iaido i went to japan and even there actual sword fighting was non-existent. real fights are a dying concept for better or worse (outside of war and self defence at least)

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#2 frannkzappa
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That would be called murder. Personally I wish sports had a steroid league. Now that would be some intense action. Fightingfan

Not if both parties consent. Heck i never said anyone had to die either, giving up or being knocked out also would end the fight.

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#3 frannkzappa
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[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

well, in that case, I go back to my original post:

yes, no rules is fine.

Because, simply put, if you have to fight, then you have to win, and you bet your sweet freakin ass that I am going to stab someone's eyes out, kick them in the nuts, break their wrists, and slam a pipe into their head if I feel my life or the life of someone I care about is in danger.

Thank god Im a big man, and I don't get into fights.

mrbojangles25

i'm not talking about self defence either...

i'm talking about trained and consenting individuals testing their skill in a formal arena.

oh, in that case, I am pretty sure that is occuring in basements and backyards all over the place man lol.

i was talking from more of a professional/martial artist standpoint.

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#4 frannkzappa
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[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

it wouldnt be entertaining, wouldnt make money, and would quickly go bankrupt, meaning people were maimed and killed for no reason. That is a problem.

*the league, I mean

mrbojangles25

who said anything about this being for making money? or entertainment for that matter.

well, in that case, I go back to my original post:

yes, no rules is fine.

Because, simply put, if you have to fight, then you have to win, and you bet your sweet freakin ass that I am going to stab someone's eyes out, kick them in the nuts, break their wrists, and slam a pipe into their head if I feel my life or the life of someone I care about is in danger.

Thank god Im a big man, and I don't get into fights.

i'm not talking about self defence either...

i'm talking about trained and consenting individuals testing their skill in a formal arena.

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#5 frannkzappa
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[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

[QUOTE="MakeMeaSammitch"]

no, because it would quickly degrade into eye gouging, testicle crushing and finger locks.

mrbojangles25

If both consent i don't see the problem.

it wouldnt be entertaining, wouldnt make money, and would quickly go bankrupt, meaning people were maimed and killed for no reason. That is a problem.

*the league, I mean

who said anything about this being for making money? or entertainment for that matter.

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#6 frannkzappa
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No. I'm rather glad that we as a society moved away from straight up murdering or severely injuring others as a form of entertainment. And to those who bring up UFC and/or some other sport: sure, there is violence involved, we watch it and the athletes run the risk of getting hurt pretty badly; but there is a major difference between what goes on in an octagon or a ring and the situation the TC presented. LZ71

what about the opinions of the fighters though?

Do you know how frustrating it is to spend ten years training in a martial art and then to never be able to really use it because someone might get hurt?

If two consenting individuals want to seriously test their skills on one another they should have a means to do so.

that's why i quit iaido years back, no one wanted to even so much as spar seriously with bokken for fear of injury.

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#7 frannkzappa
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no, because it would quickly degrade into eye gouging, testicle crushing and finger locks.

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If both consent i don't see the problem.

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#8 frannkzappa
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[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

To clarify the fight would only go on until one guy gives up, is knocked out or dies.

Pirate700

So you want modern day gladiators.

Whats wrong with that if both fighters consent?

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#9 frannkzappa
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[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

To clarify the fight would only go on until one guy gives up, is knocked out or dies.

Treflis

But then there's rules. Thus it wouldn't actually be " No rules" fight. The Nitpicker strikes again!

those aren't "rules" they are just qualities required for a fight to end. the actual fights have no rules.

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#10 frannkzappa
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UFC isn't far off unless you want weapons and death involved.

Pirate700

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultimate_Fighting_Championship#Rules

seems like a lot of rules to me.