[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

I was joking, but when you think about it... Who's going to be looking for those jobs during bad economic times and high-unemployment?

Jebus213

I have no respect for americans that need factory jobs if you are not willing to do better than that you are a failure.

we are a post industrial nation, those people are a cancer.

Yeah, fvck jobs, outsource everything to China, India, and Taiwan. We don't need them. :|

Wrong... scarcity based economics is no longer required, the USA could quite easily become self sufficient if it would just abandon the price system.

[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"] And how often does law enforcement handle these matters with an arrest? And even if they are arrested, how often are they let go with a slap on the wrist? And the city or state that handed out the sentence makes more money off the crime than the victim even receives in restitution if they get anything.hartsickdiscipl

That is due to corruption and under funding a proper technocratic society is incorruptible and thus the issue can be left to the government. However that currently not being the case it is obvious that the individual should have some self protection, but this case is a prime example of why the individual shouldn't have this right in the long run.

You must be trolling.

[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

I wouldn't say that it's self defense. I'd say that the thief got what he had coming to him. The best way to stop crime is to allow people to defend themselves and their property with extreme prejudice.

hartsickdiscipl

That has got to be one of the least enlightened, scariest thoughts I've ever heard. Are you from the Soviet Union? North Korea?

No i am an American technocrat and i believe that the individual is entitled to protection, education and happiness, not the right to self police.

[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

I wouldn't say that it's self defense. I'd say that the thief got what he had coming to him. The best way to stop crime is to allow people to defend themselves and their property with extreme prejudice.

Murderstyle75

That is due to corruption and under funding a proper technocratic society is incorruptible and thus the issue can be left to the government. However that currently not being the case it is obvious that the individual should have some self protection, but this case is a prime example of why the individual shouldn't have this right in the long run.

[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

Use them on the border.

Jebus213

on the mexicans?

illegal immigration is the single greatest thing that's ever happened to this country. Its cheap labour that eventually leaves, what could be better?

I was joking, but when you think about it... Who's going to be looking for those jobs during bad economic times and high-unemployment?

I have no respect for americans that need factory jobs if you are not willing to do better than that you are a failure.

we are a post industrial nation, those people are a cancer.

I oppose them for the same reason I oppose air and missile strikes. It takes away the risk and makes the decision to attack too simple. Taking lethal action is supposed to be a difficult decision to make. The political fallout of headlines screaming "US SOLDIERS DEAD" is an important counter-balance; it helps decision-makers ask themselves if they're really doing the right thing.

Oleg_Huzwog

I for one would like to kill the enemy with minimal risk. Also ease of decision is a great war asset.

Use them on the border.

Jebus213

on the mexicans?

illegal immigration is the single greatest thing that's ever happened to this country. Its cheap labour that eventually leaves, what could be better?

I don't like em, I think it takes the psychological aspect of war out.Fightingfan

Care to explain in more detail?

I don't see whats the big deal with drone strikes, they save american lives , but i would like to hear OTs opinion.

With luck we can get some discussions going.

[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

I wouldn't say that it's self defense. I'd say that the thief got what he had coming to him. The best way to stop crime is to allow people to defend themselves and their property with extreme prejudice.

AdamPA1006

or a well funded federal police force.