I assume it's all the nonsense dialogue. 3 discs is overkill. Getting a little lazy there Rockstar?percech

Yeah because additional two discs must have nonsense dialogue to mock 360 fanboys who say games don't need more than single DVD:)

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[QUOTE="The_Capitalist"]

Nonetheless, without definitive proof of Bin Laden's death, it is potentially likely that he is still alive, or perhaps, died many years ago from kidney failure.

The_Capitalist

Out of curiosity will your opinion change when the photo of his body is released by the CIA?

I want the government to release a recording of the full video feed that Obama and his national security team saw. I doubt it would ever happen, however.

A gory photo is not enough or a video of his "burial at sea" is not enough.

I've never seen Japan, I guess I must go there to verify if it actually exists because I can't trust anyone who say it exists.

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[QUOTE="CammiTac"]

Two theories (neither of which I necessarily believe, but they still seem plausible):

1. He was already dead. They discovered this, and wanted to take credit for it.

2. He isn't dead, but rather in some sort of CIA facility being tortured for information. By making the world think he is already dead there won't be any crazy people protesting them violating his rights as a human, or something like that.

The_Capitalist

Let say if either of those theories are true. That would mean those 90+ seals and anyone involved are told to lie and keep their mouth shut for rest of their lives, and somehow US govt is stupid enough to beleive the truth will never come out. Talk about risk vs reward:)

Nonetheless, without definitive proof of Bin Laden's death, it is potentially likely that he is still alive, or perhaps, died many years ago from kidney failure.

There is a proof, its called DNA evidence, which verified his death:)

[QUOTE="fun-da-mental"]

Let say if either of those theories are true. That would mean those 90+ seals and anyone invoed are told to lie and keep their mouth shut for rest of their lives, and somehow US govt is stupid enough to beleive the truth will never come out. Yeah right:)

Harisemo

seals are told to stay quiet mate. do you honestly think that you have been told everything UShas ever done and with complete honesty? some things always kept secret because they are in the countrys best interest that they stay hidden

Our milatary is trained to keep secrets.There is big difference between keeping a secret and deliberately lying and distorting the facts.

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[QUOTE="Harisemo"]

i dont think anyone is denying the operation was done but what The_Capitalist is saying is that theres no proof it was bin laden who was killed. the only source of all the information we have got so far is CIA and as for witnesses in that area, some say the chopper that malfunctioned was actually shot down while others said they dont believe bin laden was there at all

CammiTac

Do you really think US is stupid enough to make fake death appear real? And they waited 10 years to make this fake death? Do you even consider the consequenses on US image if world finds out he is alive?

Two theories (neither of which I necessarily believe, but they still seem plausible):

1. He was already dead. They discovered this, and wanted to take credit for it.

2. He isn't dead, but rather in some sort of CIA facility being tortured for information. By making the world think he is already dead there won't be any crazy people protesting them violating his rights as a human, or something like that.

Let say if either of those theories are true. That would mean those 90+ seals and anyone involved are told to lie and keep their mouth shut for rest of their lives, and somehow US govt is stupid enough to beleive the truth will never come out. Talk about risk vs reward:)

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[QUOTE="The_Capitalist"]

After evaluating the news, I have come to the conclusion that the raid was faked and that Osama might still be alive.

Let's see...

1. There is no evidence that Bin Laden actually died, or even if the man they killed inside that house was indeed him.

2. The White House has had complete control over the story so far. They have been feeding the media details. No third-party verification has been sought as of yet.

3. The fact that they "buried" him at sea so quickly after death is suspicious in and of itself.

Bin Laden is still alive and well, I'm telling you!

Harisemo

1) There is a evidence. Neighbour heard gunshots, explosions. There is also a video footage showing blood stains where he was found.

2) Absolutely false. Read above.

3) The fact that they buried in sea quickly is simply brilliant from military and political standpoint. Your small brain won't be able to grasp the consequences if his body was handed over to muslim country to be treated like Martyr to build a religous shrine.

i dont think anyone is denying the operation was done but what The_Capitalist is saying is that theres no proof it was bin laden who was killed. the only source of all the information we have got so far is CIA and as for witnesses in that area, some say the chopper that malfunctioned was actually shot down while others said they dont believe bin laden was there at all

Do you really think US is stupid enough to make fake death appear real? And they waited 10 years to make this fake death? Do you even consider the consequenses on US image if world finds out he is alive?

After evaluating the news, I have come to the conclusion that the raid was faked and that Osama might still be alive.

Let's see...

1. There is no evidence that Bin Laden actually died, or even if the man they killed inside that house was indeed him.

2. The White House has had complete control over the story so far. They have been feeding the media details. No third-party verification has been sought as of yet.

3. The fact that they "buried" him at sea so quickly after death is suspicious in and of itself.

Bin Laden is still alive and well, I'm telling you!

The_Capitalist

1) There is a evidence. Neighbour heard gunshots, explosions. There is also a video footage showing blood stains where he was found.

2) Absolutely false. Read above.

3) The fact that they buried in sea quickly is simply brilliant from military and political standpoint. Your close minded brain won't be able to grasp the consequences if his body was handed over to muslim country to be treated like Martyr to build a religous shrine.

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[QUOTE="rybe1025"]So I ask again who are the ones that support the hackers? You act as if anyone that thinks Sony has done wrong here are supporting the hackers which is crazy. Just because the hackers are wrong does not mean Sony was the good guy in all this.rybe1025

Who the hell cares what Sony has done? If hackers are mad at Sony, attack Sony. Not the consumers.

Are are comparing a serious crime vs neglengence and incompetence? Should you be thrown in Jail, if you some day you mistakenly left your door unlocked for robbers to attack your property?. Even if you put a lock on your door, there is no guarantee bobbers can't break in. When we talk about Cyber security, even US defense department and Nasa have been a victim of getting hacked. I guess if internet security was such a piece of cake, US govt with its 900 billion annual budeget could've implemented unhackable secure network.

I find it weird how many of the Sony defenders say they are eager to buy stuff on PSN to show their support for Sony. Seriously do not get so carried away with love for some company that you keep putting yourself at risk. rybe1025

If you think about it, almost every task in life inloves some risk, including shopping, driving, eating and even breathing:). BTW Love > Hate :P

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[QUOTE="FragTycoon"]

Sony: It is possible that CC info may have been compromised.

Fake Outragers: NOW I WILL LOSE MY HOUSE! I HATE YOU SONY! DOOOOOOM!!!!

Sony/CC Companies: CC info was encrypted and we show no PSN related fraud.

Fake Outragers: OMG! LIES! I still hate Sony! DOOOOM!

At some point you just got to admit you hating on Sony for no good reason when you should be hating on hackers.

As for hacking threat.. Sony had like 4 years w/o problems... XBL was under 6 months and still going on TODAY!..... but I wont "fake outrage" about that :P

fun-da-mental

Sony: Its the earthquake, thats why we need have to do maintenance

Sony: Errr, there was an intrusion, nothing to worry about (*aside* we're hinting it was anon)

Sony: (a week after they took down PSN) Ummm bugger so they nicked your info

And you have the cheek to wonder why some people question Sony's integrity about the matter? :?

All they said was that they were investingaging the matter, nowwhere they said "nothing to worry about" , "maintenace due to earthquake" etc.

If you ever talk to IT network infrastructure expert, you will find out that digging out netowk security could take up to days of investigation, depending on the severity. That being said, Sony probably should've invested more in securing their network infrastructure.