[QUOTE="gallienb"]I cant say for any other state but here in Ohio there is a thing called the Herbstriet classic. Where they invite 2 really highly regarded HS teams to come face up against 2 ohio hs teams. Ohio has yet to lose a game. The year they started this was the day before the OSU vs Texas game at the shoe. They invited 2 Texas HS teams to come up and play. Both texas teams lost to Ohio teams. Also if i rememebr correctly there was a team that came up this year that had a 150 game winning streak or something. The ohio HS team beat that team by over 30 points lol. So yeah Ohio hs football is some of the best in country GamerForca

That's not true. I saw Odessa-Permian out of Texas beat one of the Ohio teams. And I also know that a team from my state went up there and blew out somebody.

Actually what i said was tru b/c i watched the flipping games. I'm talkin about the Herbstreit classic games. There might have been some good teams that came up here that didn't play in that classic that crushed some of the ohio cupcake teams to get an easy win But the games i watched the Ohio teams won. Not once did i ever see or hear about St. Xavier or any other monster team from up here lose to a school outside of ohio. I have heard of a team that was pretty bad up here lose to a team from texas. Matter fact it was a HS that my HS team even beat and my HS isn't even Div. I

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I'm not going to say much but everybody gets on OSU about there schedule this year. I saw a fact some where that stated this was the worse schedule OSU had since 1934. Also do you realize that OSU is the only team that goes out there way to actually schedule good teams while most SEC teams dont, and they use there so called tough SEC schedule as an excuss for that. OSU schedules Texas last year and the year before. Next year and the year after we play USC. Also we have Virginia tech and Maimi and a few others on up coming schedules. OSU always has one of the top schedules in the country. This just so happens to be an off year.

geaux321

Yeah, you're right the SEC doesn't schedule top teams. LSU has played VT the past two years, Arkansas played USC last year and the year before. Auburn is playing West Virginia the next two years, and then Clemson in 2009-10. Florida plays Florida St. every year, same with Georgia plays Georgia Tech, South Carolina plays Clemson, and Kentucky plays Louisville. Vanderbilt played Michigan last year. Ole Miss played Missouri the past two years, and played Wake Forest last year. Mississippi St. played West Virginia the past two year as well. So yeah, the SEC doesn't schedule top teams at all.

I know you being sarcastic but i would have to agree they dont. I mean after you mentiong the schools i bolded. You lose all crediabilty to know what a good team is. Most SEC schools will schedule and hope what they schedule turn out to be good teams. Like Missouri, who the hell knew they would actually be good this year. Plus with Floride, Florida state really isn't as good as they use to be. Plus who saw Wake Forest being half way decnet the last 2 years. Plus I'm sure you saw how poor Michigan was this year. All teams in major conferences get lucky when they schedule teams. OSU goes after every team knowning they are good. I rememebr when UCLA was really good and they scheduled them 2 years in a row. Any time there is a team that is good they schedule them. Like i said there was a fact if you want to look it up. That i saw during a game that said OSU's schedule was the worse since 1934 and thats saying something. Oh and by the way who Auburn play this year? USF? Kansas State? lol Auburn almost lucked out on there schedule when USF was #2 in land but nope they turned out to be yet another crappy team SEC team schedules. Hey look at the Troy university schedule. IF you do that you will swear they play in the SEC with all the SEC teams they play lol

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OSU will get blown out by any of the following:

LSU

Oklahoma

USC

and they probably wouldn't keep it close with Va Tech either. They are going to embarrass themselves again. Quote me on that.

NavigatorsGhost

I'll quote you on that. OSU was predicted to lose 3-4 games this year. This year was called a rebuilding year from the get go. Now look, OSU has only lost 1 game all season to a team they could beat 7 out of 10 times. I'll bet you were someone who thought Michigan would beat OSU too.

They lost one game in a weaker than expected conference. A home game. To a surprise team. Michigan beat OSU? With LLoyd Carr at the helm? LMFAO.

OSU had a cupcake schedule and they are going to get rolled in the title game. ROLLED.

Carr being a bad coach is just another excuse to say Michigan isn't a good team. Carr is not a bad coach, he's the scapegoat for everyone to blame losing on. In his overall career he's a winning coach. So what happens next year if OSU beats Michigan again and they have a different coach? What will be the excuse then? Yea cupcake schedule...I mean everyone was saying how this team and that team will hand it to OSU...and it never happened. Like I said before, this year wasn't even supposed to be big for OSU, they were said to lose 3-4 games preseason, and look what they've done?

OSU didn't play anyone. They beat michigan in the big house, whoopee. And Michigan was awful this year, total disappointment. Henne, Hart, and Manningham are three of the most overrated players in the country. Carr can't handle Tressel look at the record.

Um, a schedule is termed "cupcake" because of the quality of the opponents. It has nothing to do with the betting lines for the games. OSU didn't play anyone worthwhile. Oh wait, they played another BCS bowl bound team in Illinois (at home) and lost.

OSU didn't have to play in a conference championship game either. Look at how many teams that were favored lost their conference championships. What the hell is OSU doing in the championship game? Kansas only lost 1 game (they aren't great either) and that was to a team (Missouri) that eventually reached the top of the polls. They're in a BCS conference. They had an easy non-conference schedule. All of the same things that OSU did.

After USC (without a doubt the best team in the country when healthy) blows out Illinois and LSU blows out OSU, the question will be asked that was being asked at the beginning of the season, who is better USC or LSU? Why aren't the playing each other?

Which teams are best are a matter of opinion. You can't say there is a clear winner since everyone has lost. People dislike OSU because they are on top so much. If OSUs schedule is so easy, who in your opinion has had such a tough schedule? Is it OSUs fault? It's not like their team is saying, hey schedule us easy teams so we look good all the time. People act like OSU is terrible. They are #1 right now, they won their conf, beat their rival (which by the majority is considered the biggest NCAA rivalry), and were a lock for the Rose Bowl. OSU fans were fine with the Rose Bowl. OSU had a great season. We got lucky that the right teams lost (not OSUs fault). So for anyone whining that OSU backed into the NC, don't blame OSU, blame your teams that lost and made OSUs NC appearance possible.

It is OSU's fault for having such a cake schedule. They can't change their conference schedule but they sure as hell determine their non-conference games. You want hard schedules look at Washington or South Carolina. Hawaii beat everybody on their schedule, so why aren't they in the title game? What more could they do?

In no way is OSU one of the two best teams in the country and this is just another year where the best team in college football goes undecided. Enjoy the lopsided championship game...again.

I can't answer for Hawaii. The thing people need to remember about this though is other teams had opportunities to play in the NC and they lost. The chance was within reach, and it slipped away. OSU played their schedule, sat back and waited for everyone elses move. I don't understand why OSU has to prove to OSU haters time and time again. If OSU played the toughest teams and still won, there would be excuses just like now. No matter what OSU does that's good, someones out to discredit it. The only way OSU haters will be satisfied is if OSU loses game after game. I'm a proud OSU fan, I hope they win the NC. If they don't I'm not gonna cry about it. They had a great season. I'm more happy that they won their conf. and beat Michigan then them winning the NC. I think most OSU fans can say the same. The only thing that would make their season any sweeter is if they had beaten iLL and went undefeated. Yet, even then people would discredit that.

Your whole problem with this argument is that you think people are saying OSU doesn't belong simply because they are OSU "haters". You are using that as an excuse and ignore every credible reason why they have no business being in the championship game. OSU avoided playing a good or great team at the end of the year because they didn't have to play a conference championship. Thats not their fault, but its a difference between them and other top teams like LSU. The two best teams in the Big East, Big 12, and SEC (among some other BCS conferences) have to play conference championships and in some cases are playing a tough team for the 2nd time in the same year. The whole problem is that the scheduling isn't balanced to begin with.

And as further proof that OSU is not the best team, the oddsmakers in vegas have USC the favorite over any other team if they played on a neutral site...

I'm not going to say much but everybody gets on OSU about there schedule this year. I saw a fact some where that stated this was the worse schedule OSU had since 1934. Also do you realize that OSU is the only team that goes out there way to actually schedule good teams while most SEC teams dont, and they use there so called tough SEC schedule as an excuss for that. OSU schedules Texas last year and the year before. Next year and the year after we play USC. Also we have Virginia tech and Maimi and a few others on up coming schedules. OSU always has one of the top schedules in the country. This just so happens to be an off year.

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I am a Michigan fan and I always say that Ohio St. is overrated. I hate them with a passion. Almost has much as I hate the Yankees. -ZeRoHouR-

I find that bold part very funny lol. Wasn't Michigan rated 5th at the begining of the year, and we all know what happened the first 2 games of there season. Yet you always think OSU is overrated, ironic? OSU started the year 11th and they worked there way up the polls with winning games. I know they got a lot of help with people losing, but they still was winning games to get where they are. I'm sorry but no Michigan fan can ever call an OSU team overated until further notice.