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@goldenelementxl said:
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And yet.. Game companies more successful than Nintendo (Microsoft, Ubisoft, Sony, i can go on..) actually recognize the value of free advertising.

Except Nintendo sells more software and has higher single platform attach rates than those companies.

Under the circumstances of this discussion, only how much money is earned matters isn't it?? Since, the discussion is about Nintendo asking for money for showing just seconds of their game content.

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#2  Edited By gigantrax
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@goldenelementxl said:
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2. "honest" means just that. In reviews, It means telling what you think without any restrictions to say otherwise either by the product owning company or PR department. It also adds a requirement of justification.

Nintendo restricts specific story or game details being shown in video reviews and preview videos. Giant Bomb does a great job of illustrating these restrictions every time they encounter them in their "quick looks." That doesn't mean that Dan Ryckert had to give the game 5 stars because Nintendo made him. Journalist are able to have whatever opinion they want. Nintendo can't control that. What Nintendo can control is the video content, spoilers etc.

Bro. Go through the video on which this entire discussion is going on. A 5 second segment of a giant bush and a gorrilla was getting claimed by the bot.

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@iambatman7986 said:

I side with Nintendo on this. You can't just use Metallica music in a video without their permission, why should reviewers make money off of Nintendos hard work? There are many ways he can do a video using Nintendo footage. He can go through their website and go through the proper channels, or he can use stock footage.

Yeah, I know I'm in the minority here, but every other media industry restricts copyright material, why are games different? Can't post a let's watch of a brand new movie and not have it taken down.

And yet.. Game companies more successful than Nintendo (Microsoft, Ubisoft, Sony, i can go on..) actually recognize the value of free advertising.

EDIT- And bro.. FYI Nintendo doesn't even allow stock footage for use in creating youtube video.

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@goldenelementxl said:
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Well.. I am not taking this argument any further. There are only some guys in youtube who are actually honest about their games in their reviews and they're generally the targets for these kind of attacks. Since, a legend of zelda video is uploaded in Easy Allies channel, I can't trust them as they most probably did an agreement with Nintendo.

1 - Attacks?!?! It's their property!

2 - What makes a review, "honest?" I ask because 90% of the time an honest or "spot on" review to a poster on a message board simply means it justifies their decision (or inability) to buy a game.

3 - So what you're saying is you don't trust what any major site or publication has to say about a game? Do you honestly think Zelda BotW is actually a bad game that is being overhyped by the Nintendo controlled media?

1. According to Fair Use Doctrine that video is the property of the content creator (youtuber).

2. "honest" means just that. In reviews, It means telling what you think without any restrictions to say otherwise either by the product owning company or PR department. It also adds a requirement of justification.

3. The debate is on the whole policy of Nintendo, and its just an example of the policy. Not all Nintendo games are gems (1-2 switch lol..). BTW. Every video content (especially reviews and lets plays) on Nintendo games need to pass under Nintendo for monetization. This is a pretty old policy.

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@iandizion713 said:

@gigantrax: How would you know, can you read their minds? Dont trust no one in this world. And also, its dangerous to journey alone.

lol.. did you even watch angry joe's video on this..?? Read this https://r.ncp.nintendo.net/guide/ and this http://kotaku.com/nintendos-youtube-plan-is-already-being-panned-by-youtu-1682527904

Considering, I just got an ad on the legend of zelda review of Easy Allies.

lol.. you're probably using an adblock.

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Well.. I am not taking this argument any further. There are only some guys in youtube who are actually honest about their games in their reviews and they're generally the targets for these kind of attacks. Since, a legend of zelda video is uploaded in Easy Allies channel, I can't trust them as they most probably did an agreement with Nintendo.

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@iandizion713 said:

@gigantrax: It pays to be professional. AngryJoe cant do that though, majority of his viewers dont have jobs. He needs them clicks for big corporations.

Well. So called Professional critics at IGN are doing a marvelous job. BTW.. Titanfall was 8.9 on IGN .. Its weird guys like Angry Joe who ultimately save my money off of the trash

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@gigantrax: What about it? Are you anti game reviewers? Daniel Bloodworth doesnt use ads. Hes paid from his Patreon.

Well. But, I said more or as much passionate as Joe. The guy is just reading stuff. I would agree about that for Jim Sterling but, he mostly reviews the game in the underbelly of Steam.

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Nintendo are retards not to take free publicity on YouTube. Zelda is a great game no doubt and all they got was negative press with this.

Surely doesn't make me want to run out and get a Switch.

Do you seriously think Nintendo needs a Youtubers "free publicity" to sell copies of Zelda, or any of their first person titles? GTFO. But I can tell you who would really benefit from Nintendo allowing this. "Content creators" like Joe who get compensated on views. Nintendo doesn't need Joe, but Joe would sure love to get some extra clicks from "reviewing" Nintendo games.

Dev teams work countless hours over a period of years working on their games. How is it right for some guy with a computer and a camera to profit off of their work? He's not a journalist. He has shown on many occasions that he doesn't have a grasp on how game creation or the industry works. Being on his bad side doesn't hurt anything. As we will see with Twitch implementing the "buy now button," The majority of people who watch this stuff do not buy games. They are a bunch of entitled leeches. Joe was smart enough to capitalize on them. Gotta give him credit for that.

Love the pic. Well.. Today games industry works like this. One company gives a game or a device free of cost to a reviewer (called review copy) which the reviewer reviews and spreads the word. Now, if the video got 500k views, I can guarantee you that that video sold at least 2 copies of the game or device (its generally quite larger than that). That's a net win for the company. Its basic economics.

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#10  Edited By gigantrax
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@iandizion713 said:

@gigantrax: He doesnt put on an act, hes real.

Well.. just like 20 more video game reviewers out there.