[QUOTE="gomer69"]

[QUOTE="drj077"]

No, your body has thousands of each of those cell types with many thousand more in reserve in the spleen and the potential to make thousands more than that from the bone marrow. Your body has more than enough resources to fight off any infection as long as the infection doesn't get ahead and/or the body has seen the infection before.

What you're talking about in the Ukraine is not a conspiracy. That's called a mistake along with paranoia. There have only been a few hundred deaths with the majority of cases CONFIRMED as H1N1 swine flu. Plus, we're dealing with a country without the resources or the medical technology to potentially deal with the millions infected. This is feeding off the previous Baxter vaccine shipping mistake with everyone believing now that Spanish Flu is spreading everywhere. It's utterly ridiculous.

drj077

There are multiple reasons ranging from an inappropriate immune response to the vaccine when severely ill to an inability to recognize vaccine side effects in the very ill person. No vaccine in those less than 6 months is in effect for multiple reasons. First,the humoral side of the immune system is not fully developed. Hence, the reason why most babies are still breast feeding and acquiring their passive immunity from their mothers. However, the primary reason why age limits are set on vaccinations is because the vaccines are tested on certain groups and only those groups get FDA approval to get the vaccine, because it's never been tested in any other group even if it is probably safe.

http://www.examiner.com/x-29228-LA-Health-Technology-Examiner~y2009m11d16-Ukraine-flu-death-toll-goes-up--British-labs-test-to-ID-flu-as-H1N1-Spanish-flu-or-something-else


Here is another official news paper talking about it being like the spanish flu.

[QUOTE="gomer69"][QUOTE="drj077"]

You would be incorrect with that statement. The immune systems response to vaccination is almost immediate with antigen internalization, processing, and display occurring quite rapidly. Local inflammation around the injection site occurs within hours and is part of the reason why the response to vaccination is so hearty. Antibody production probably takes multiple weeks depending upon the initial response APC, T-cells, and B-cells controlling the overall response with T-cells functioning as the body's immune system masterminds. There is no such thing as an acquired immune deficiency from vaccination from any of our currently approved vaccines.

drj077

No, your body has thousands of each of those cell types with many thousand more in reserve in the spleen and the potential to make thousands more than that from the bone marrow. Your body has more than enough resources to fight off any infection as long as the infection doesn't get ahead and/or the body has seen the infection before.

What you're talking about in the Ukraine is not a conspiracy. That's called a mistake along with paranoia. There have only been a few hundred deaths with the majority of cases CONFIRMED as H1N1 swine flu. Plus, we're dealing with a country without the resources or the medical technology to potentially deal with the millions infected. This is feeding off the previous Baxter vaccine shipping mistake with everyone believing now that Spanish Flu is spreading everywhere. It's utterly ridiculous.

[QUOTE="gomer69"]

[QUOTE="Lucifericus"] Are you easily convinced it is the end of the world? Do you buy into every conspiracy theory you hear? Totally. ;)

Lucifericus

It isn't the end of the world, but lots of people have already died in the ukraine, and if it spreads past the border of the ukraine, then yes there is a chance that it will personally affect you in one way or another. You could argue the source of the disease but you can't really exist whether or not it exists at this time. The leaders of ukraine admit to it in interviews. That being said the microbiologist/PhD told the world this was going to happen, and who would cause it. he listed the exact disease and the exact place it would occur and that it would occur soon... i dont know what else you need to convince you.

[QUOTE="gomer69"]

[QUOTE="Lucifericus"] I can't wait to die. I will never have to put up with conspiracy theories ever again. :D

Lucifericus

It isn't the end of the world, but lots of people have already died in the ukraine, and if it spreads past the border of the ukraine, then yes there is a chance that it will personally affect you in one way or another. You could argue the source of the disease but you can't really exist whether or not it exists at this time. The leaders of ukraine admit to it in interviews. That being said the microbiologist/PhD told the world this was going to happen, and who would cause it. he listed the exact disease and the exact place it would occur and that it would occur soon... i dont know what else you need to convince you.

[QUOTE="gomer69"][QUOTE="drj077"]

Here's an idea. Why don't they actually get some opinions from people that actually live in the UK? Also, I've had the Swine Flu Vaccination. I was injected with it well over a month ago. I've had no problems and I have yet to be infected with Swine Flu.

drj077

You would be incorrect with that statement. The immune systems response to vaccination is almost immediate with antigen internalization, processing, and display occurring quite rapidly. Local inflammation around the injection site occurs within hours and is part of the reason why the response to vaccination is so hearty. Antibody production probably takes multiple weeks depending upon the initial response APC, T-cells, and B-cells controlling the overall response with T-cells functioning as the body's immune system masterminds. There is no such thing as an acquired immune deficiency from vaccination from any of our currently approved vaccines.

[QUOTE="gomer69"]

HAHAHAHAHA looks like I wasn't making this **** up....

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/140492/Million-hit-by-plague-worse-than-swine-flu-

The official media is JUST starting to report this... umm... this has been going on for AT LEAST 2 weeks... you people are so dumb and believe the american propaganda/media....

Well if that virus gets outside of the Ukraine you have a 100% chance to die if you don't see a doctor within 24 hours of getting it, and a 50% chance to die IF you see a doctor within 24 hours of getting sick (EVEN WITH THE BEST POSSIBLE TECHNOLOGY)...

Lucifericus

Here's an idea. Why don't they actually get some opinions from people that actually live in the UK? Also, I've had the Swine Flu Vaccination. I was injected with it well over a month ago. I've had no problems and I have yet to be infected with Swine Flu.

drj077

HAHAHAHAHA looks like I wasn't making this **** up....

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/140492/Million-hit-by-plague-worse-than-swine-flu-

The official media is JUST starting to report this... umm... this has been going on for AT LEAST 2 weeks... you people are so dumb and believe the american propaganda/media....

Well if that virus gets outside of the Ukraine you have a 100% chance to die if you don't see a doctor within 24 hours of getting it, and a 50% chance to die IF you see a doctor within 24 hours of getting sick (EVEN WITH THE BEST POSSIBLE TECHNOLOGY)...

I would kill a million people to save a million people. this decision is completely morally balanced; I would be both a hero to those that survive and a mass murderer to those that have died. Unfortunately the dead can not speak.