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#1 gomer69
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I think arnold said you can only gain 10 pounds of lean muscle per year. but it is also true that people that just start working out seem to gain muscle much more quickly than arnold (someone who has been doing it for a long time). but either way even what arnold says is 10 pounds of muscle so that is like 20 pounds of weight total (because you would also gain 10 pounds of fat).

What? You can gain muscle without adding ANY fat at all. All you need to do is cardio & pick out high protein, low fat meals such as Tuna or Oatmeal then you should definetly increase muscle with no fat.

LOL that is impossible, that is like what you want to do if you want to lose wieght.... I can find the link if I have too, but it is impossible to not gain at least 1/2 pound of fat for every pound of muscle you put on. like your body just can't do it.
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#2 gomer69
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[QUOTE="cyborg100000"]

[QUOTE="Kanix23"]

No surprise that some really bad advice is being given out here. I'll start with diet. You should be eating 5-6 meals per day, with lots of protein per meal. To the guy that said 100g of protein per day, that is definitely not enough unless we are talking about a teenage girl. I know some people may lose a kidney simply by reading this, but I probably consume about 300g protein per day(I don't count calories so IDK for sure...). Fats and carbs are both important in gaining weight, but try to separate out your fats from your carbs until you no longer can(because you're not gaining anymore). Have protein with every meal. For carbs, rice, potatoes, pasta, fruit are all good choices. For protein, really any kind of meat. For fat, just from the meat, nuts, peanut butter, eggs, stuff like that.

Now on to training. The standard advice nowadays is to give newbs a 3 day/week full body program. The truth is not very many people have gotten big off of such programs. They may be fine to start off with, but you should quickly graduate to an upper/lower split or a regular body part split(2-3 body parts per day, about 3 exercises per group). Training 4-6 days per week is absolutely fine and is how many people have gotten very big. Also, NEVER fall in to the "I don't want to get too big!" crowd. Trust me, if that's your approach you most definitely WILL NOT get big at all. Also, you have to be committed 24/7. This isn't for weaklings or pu$$ies so prepare to bust your ass and be committed. I play video games yet I still find the time to bodybuild, so just remember that 99% of excuses are for pu$$ies.

BTW, in my first year of training I gained 40 lbs. of mostly muscle, and a lot of strength.

Kanix23

But it takes a year to gain 10lbs of muscle and that's if you have good genetics & never miss training or a meal.

Oh, really? All the muscle I thought I was gaining is really fake! Thanks for your great contribution!

Dude, that is some serious BS. The first thing you should do when starting training(and LIFE for that matter...) is not limit yourself. Most newbs especially can gain around 20 lbs. of muscle pretty easily. From then on it gets harder, but don't limit yourself to specific numbers, especially when you have no idea where they came from and just heard it somewhere.

I think arnold said you can only gain 10 pounds of lean muscle per year. but it is also true that people that just start working out seem to gain muscle much more quickly than arnold (someone who has been doing it for a long time). but either way even what arnold says is 10 pounds of muscle so that is like 20 pounds of weight total (because you would also gain 10 pounds of fat).
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#3 gomer69
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[QUOTE="Kanix23"]

No surprise that some really bad advice is being given out here. I'll start with diet. You should be eating 5-6 meals per day, with lots of protein per meal. To the guy that said 100g of protein per day, that is definitely not enough unless we are talking about a teenage girl. I know some people may lose a kidney simply by reading this, but I probably consume about 300g protein per day(I don't count calories so IDK for sure...). Fats and carbs are both important in gaining weight, but try to separate out your fats from your carbs until you no longer can(because you're not gaining anymore). Have protein with every meal. For carbs, rice, potatoes, pasta, fruit are all good choices. For protein, really any kind of meat. For fat, just from the meat, nuts, peanut butter, eggs, stuff like that.

Now on to training. The standard advice nowadays is to give newbs a 3 day/week full body program. The truth is not very many people have gotten big off of such programs. They may be fine to start off with, but you should quickly graduate to an upper/lower split or a regular body part split(2-3 body parts per day, about 3 exercises per group). Training 4-6 days per week is absolutely fine and is how many people have gotten very big. Also, NEVER fall in to the "I don't want to get too big!" crowd. Trust me, if that's your approach you most definitely WILL NOT get big at all. Also, you have to be committed 24/7. This isn't for weaklings or pu$$ies so prepare to bust your ass and be committed. I play video games yet I still find the time to bodybuild, so just remember that 99% of excuses are for pu$$ies.

BTW, in my first year of training I gained 40 lbs. of mostly muscle, and a lot of strength.

cyborg100000

But it takes a year to gain 10lbs of muscle and that's if you have good genetics & never miss training or a meal.

I've heard this before, but what it doesn't consider is that, you gain at least 1/2 pound of fat for every pound of muscle you get, and most people gain 1 pound of fat for every pound of muscle they gain. you can't gain 1 pound of muscle and 0 pounds of fat. that is impossible and your body won't allow it. That being said, if he is really really skinny and he gains 2 pounds of fat for every pound of muscle till he is average weight, then i don't really see a problem with that. But after he reaches average weight, he should focus more on 1 pound of fat for 1 pound of muscle.
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No surprise that some really bad advice is being given out here. I'll start with diet. You should be eating 5-6 meals per day, with lots of protein per meal. To the guy that said 100g of protein per day, that is definitely not enough unless we are talking about a teenage girl. I know some people may lose a kidney simply by reading this, but I probably consume about 300g protein per day(I don't count calories so IDK for sure...). Fats and carbs are both important in gaining weight, but try to separate out your fats from your carbs until you no longer can(because you're not gaining anymore). Have protein with every meal. For carbs, rice, potatoes, pasta, fruit are all good choices. For protein, really any kind of meat. For fat, just from the meat, nuts, peanut butter, eggs, stuff like that.

Now on to training. The standard advice nowadays is to give newbs a 3 day/week full body program. The truth is not very many people have gotten big off of such programs. They may be fine to start off with, but you should quickly graduate to an upper/lower split or a regular body part split(2-3 body parts per day, about 3 exercises per group). Training 4-6 days per week is absolutely fine and is how many people have gotten very big. Also, NEVER fall in to the "I don't want to get too big!" crowd. Trust me, if that's your approach you most definitely WILL NOT get big at all. Also, you have to be committed 24/7. This isn't for weaklings or pu$$ies so prepare to bust your ass and be committed. I play video games yet I still find the time to bodybuild, so just remember that 99% of excuses are for pu$$ies.

BTW, in my first year of training I gained 40 lbs. of mostly muscle, and a lot of strength.

Kanix23

I said 100g of protein in addition to what you regularly eat at the minimum, and i also said, if your muscles are still soar for 3 or more days after working out, that your probably need to eat more protien.

I also said that i personally ate 100-150 grams of protien powder a day in addition to that i ate protein bars steaks and eggs on a regular basis.

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#7 gomer69
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Well, if you have XP, then not having anti-virus is like ****ing a homeless person without a condom. If you have VISTA, then not having anti-virus is like **** a high priced hooker without a condom, and your mom calls you every 5 minutes to ask if you are sure you want to stick your dick in.

edit: condom = antivirus

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#8 gomer69
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[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

You don't need to join a gym to workout. Just jog/run, lift free-weights and maybe play some DDR (works very well for me). When it comes for eating more, try eating less more often, and when you start exercising, you'll start requiring more energy.

kulmiye
The first part of your post is wrong in his case...he wants to add mass...that is not the way to do it The second part of your post is correct though -try to eat 6 meals a day...I actually eat more...but start there You should start out with 3 days a week lifting and slowly ramp up to 4 or 5 -doing different muscle groups each day -you should still some cardio because it is good for your health...but do not run long distances...try interval training (to be built like an Olympic sprinter, not a marathon runner) -you can get workout (lifting) programs all over the internet...but start out with a basic 3 day a week full body program and adapt from there You should eat many small meals a day that are HIGH in protein

4 to 5 days a week? That's a bit too much. Resting is just as important as working out when gaining mass. Also its good to have some stamina and so the whole "be built like an Olympic sprinter" is irrelevant unless you want to be an Olympic sprinter. I would suggest cycling to places like school or work as it's cheaper, on the whole compared to other transports except walking and it is good exercise. Otherwise I would agree with everything else you wrote.

umm resting is just as important as working out... that is why you work out each muscle group only once a week so it has 6 days of rest per week. You can work out 5 days a week and let each muscle group get 6 days a rest a week, so long as you do different muscle groups on different days.
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#9 gomer69
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I actually do that most of the time the self-service machines screw up at Tesco. If one item out of more than 12 or so wont scan repeatedly, i'll just toss it in the bag. Their fault, not mine. :PDoctor-McNinja
lol this is the first response that made me feel better lol... cuz that is pretty much what happened to me...
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#10 gomer69
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There is noway in hell I would ever admit to this crime ever. I would lie lie lie, if I ever got caught.

Lilyanne46

You just did with this thread my dear. :(

Yea but the police would never find this thread and link it to the crime, unless they confiscated my computer (but that wouldn't make much sense, considering I stole a block of cheese). I would like to see them try to get a warrant for my computer for dairy theft...