[QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"][QUOTE="Atrus"][QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"]

I kinda meant that the laws were not abolished (Not all anyway) but the punishments. I'm not selectively interpreting anything. Justice is one of God's personalitys. He cannot go against His own personality.

And God's not coming to Earth Himself is no proof that He isn't there. Can you imagine what would happen if something happened today like in Evan Almighty?

sSubZerOo

Again you have no evidence for this except for the supposed inaction of God to punish people. If God did that all the time then he wouldn't have written laws telling people to stone other people. It's up to the people to do that, and the people stopped on their own because the laws of God sucked, and the people themselves could no longer entertain a God that jumped into the world after they were exiled by the Babylonians, their nation destroyed.

There is no evidence of God repealing the laws or punishments for them. You are trying to pick something out of the air in order to justify an unfounded position. We could easily say that if God went so far as to explicitly dictate its laws then the lack of an explicit repealing infers that they and their punishments should still stand. Who are you to dictate what God should or should not do when punishing people? Perhaps it's working in that "mysterious way" people suggest. All you know is that there are explicit laws and no motion to repeal them.

You are misinterpreting what I said. God couldn't NOT punish somebody for a crime, because that would be an injustice. These punishments were no longer needed, as Christ was the ultimate compensation. So most of the laws, like th eTen Commandments, still apply, but they are not punished. I am not digging this out of thin air. I am not saying God should or shouldn't do something. Look it up. Try Paul Little.

And btw, That verse with the gu sacrifising his daughter, he made a vow to do so. It was an OLD RULE that if you swear by God or yourself, you must come through woth that vow. So he did.

And you are just picking out of thin air notions that people abandoned God's laws because "They sucked" At least I'm putting up an argument.

I have to go to bed.

The irony of this all is the fact why that guy was not considered a murderer is because women back then were considered property at best.. Or how bout the rediculousness of the 10 commandments?

Bad language made it, but rape and child abuse didn't?

what "guy" and murderare you talking about?

by bad language the ten commandments is taking the lord's name in vain, not cussing or anything like that. also, "do not commit adultery* is one of the ten commandments, so that pretty much covers rape and child abuse.

acording to the bible, yes, but acording to the bible a magical being who judges everyone lives in the sky, gays should be killed, women are below men, and if you don't do what the "magical being" says you burn , and are tortured for all of eternity. so as far as i'm concerned, there is no such thing as "sin"dante_123456

stop acting like you've read the bible because you obviously haven't.

[QUOTE="Captain_Swosh69"]Here's what happening in the world. Sex and the city. Those4 bi***es sleep around unmarried. Brad shag Jolie while married to Jennifer. In college, everybody sleeps around. When you graduate from uni, everybody still sleeps around. Ever watch college girl gone wild pornos?? And in India and middle east, the men commit rape and the judge and family condemn the victim. Then the father or cousin or whatever kills the victim for family honor. In short, nobody cares.The_PirateKing

indeed

wheres it say in the bible no sex before marriage? just curiousbabyjesus87

the entire bible is against it. just look around and eventually you'll find something that talks about it.

1. Jesus' racism:

Matthew 15:22-26:

A Canaanite woman from that vicinity came to him, crying out: Lord, Son of David, have mercy on me! My daughter is suffering terribly from demon-possession.

Jesus did not answer a word. So his disciples came to him and urged him: Send her away, for she keeps crying out after us.

He answered: I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel

The woman came and knelt before him: Lord, help me!, she said.

He replied: It is not right to take the children's bread and toss it to their dogs

Basically, he refuses to help the Canaanite womand and calls her a dog...If I refuse to help a Black man for example and say: "It is not right to take the children's bread and toss it to their dogs.", I think I'd have all anti-racism leagues all over me.

2. Jesus invents stuff on the spot.

Compare Luke 10:25-28 toLuke 18:18-22

You'll see two totally different answers TO THE SAME QUESTION, probably invented on the spot.

3. Gods' mass murders:

Well he did order Mozes to have everyone killed who believes in another God, and he organizes a mass murder of Egyptian babies. Really, the bible is full of proof God is a demented violent individual.

Avitu666

you forgot to mention the rest of Matthew.  Here it is starting from verse 27

woman: Yes Lord, but even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from the master's table

Jesus: Woman, you have great faith!  Your request is granted."  and her daughter was healed from that very hour

read the two bible verses from Luke.  they have nothing to do with each other.  in fact in Ch 18:18-22 a question is not even asked

and God never asked Moses to do that.  I think you are getting confused, because the Egyptian pharoah ordered their soldiers to kill all male Israelite babies, because the pharoah felt that they would rebel against him in the future

your facts are completely wrong.  you should really check your sources.

I say this because first of all, a lot of miracles seem to happen, but only to strong christian believers. A person will get advice from god and get out of harms way but thousands of people are starving and dying who are not christian. So basically, IF god is real, he only helps those who worship him, hardly the "Pure most righteous being" that people claim he is. so if this is true, then he wouldnt have the slightest problem throwing your ass in hell for all eternity cuz u werent baptized or something. which is why i dont really like god, real or not.

The_Moo_Man

God lets these things happen because we have freewill, he does not interfere with us.  Occasionally, he does perform miracles, and no it isn't always for Christians, but keep in mind this is very rare.  in fact, I know of specific one but I need to find out more about it before I say anything.  God does not solve all of our problems, we need to solve them ourselves.  God doesn't throw you in hell, you are responsible for your own actions, not God.  Man, people need to stop judging things if they do not know all of the facts first.

[QUOTE="jackelhunter"]

Its never been recorded that any of them were insane, and if you look at the Bible, Jesus is very far from insane. besides, Jesus didn't preach evil, and if he was insane the people could probably tell.

Avitu666

No, he's just.

1. a racist, because he refuses to help the Canaanites.

2. Contradictory in his accounts, inventing his stuff on the spot

3.  and he says to follow the old laws (old testament). as such he is comfortable withcertain mass murders commited by God, he also supports sexism (just look at how women are treated in the bible) and he's apparently very comfortable with slavery...

Face it, the guy's a fraud 

1. where in the bible does he say that

2. how is he inventing stuff on the spot

3. really? he after being tourtured for her entire life, Jesus set a woman free. (forgot the exact verse, but I know it was in Mathew).  by mass murders do you mean stuff like sodom and Gamorah?  God was punishing those people, God knows what he's doing.  Those people disobeyed him, and yes the entire city (except for a fe that were set free) went against God.

you yourself are making stuff up.  have you even looked in the bible?