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#1 jetpower3
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[QUOTE="jetpower3"]

And on a related note, I laugh at those who think that Saddam had the clout to change the pricing currency of oil from USD to EUR (at least in any serious threat to U.S. interests).

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I take it then that you laugh at Time Magazine as well....

Europe's dream of promoting the euro as a competitor to the U.S. dollar may get a boost from SADDAM HUSSEIN. Iraq says that from now on, it wants payments for its oil in euros, despite the fact that the battered European currency unit, which used to be worth quite a bit more than $1, has dropped to about 82[cents]. Iraq says it will no longer accept dollars for oil because it does not want to deal "in the currency of the enemy."

The switch to euros would cost the U.N. a small fortune in accounting-paperwork changes. It would also reduce the interest earnings and reparations payments that Iraq is making for damage it caused during the Gulf War, a shortfall the Iraqis would have to make up.

The move hurts Iraq, the U.N. and the countries receiving reparations. So why is Saddam doing it? Diplomatic sources say switching to the euro will favor European suppliers over U.S. ones in competing for Iraqi contracts, and the p.r. boost that Baghdad would probably get in Europe would be another plus.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,998512,00.html#ixzz1yi63CDSDTime Magazine

Incidentally, Muammar Ghadafi suffered the same fate when he too ditched the Dollar in order to sell his oil in gold backed African Dinars, a currency Ghadafi was looking to introduce.

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A country's wealth would depend on how much gold it had and not how many dollars it traded. And Libya has 144 tons of gold. The UK, for example, has twice as much, but ten times the population.

"If Gaddafi had an intent to try to re-price his oil or whatever else the country was selling on the global market and accept something else as a currency or maybe launch a gold dinar currency, any move such as that would certainly not be welcomed by the power elite today, who are responsible for controlling the world's central banks,"says Anthony Wile, founder and chief editor of the Daily Bell.

"So yes, that would certainly be something that would cause his immediate dismissal and the need for other reasons to be brought forward from moving him from power."

And it has happened before.

In 2000, Saddam Hussein announced Iraqi oil would be traded in euros, not dollars. Some say sanctions and an invasion followed because the Americans were desperate to prevent OPEC from transferring oil trading in all its member countries to the euro.

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http://www.rt.com/news/economy-oil-gold-libya/RT

I'll take your laughter as part of your own lunacy.

Iraq can do what it wants. That doesn't mean that anyone else is going to play ball with them. As I said, Iraq's oil production alone is nothing special, and I certainly wouldn't risk empowering a man whose blatant military aggressions were well known (even if only politically).

And I'd cite something better than that sorry excuse for a news agency that is RT.

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#2 jetpower3
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Person0"] For the real reasons oil is pretty obvious .Person0
LOL no. Oil is not the real reason. What a simplistic and misguided answer. How much oil does Iraq export to the US? And the cost has risen not decreased by the way.

Well Iraq has the second largest proven reserves in the world, having those secure is a pretty important thing. What other reasons were there? WMD's and Terrorists were the main ones which were both false.

Iraq's oil reserves are only the 5th largest in the world at this point. If you look at production, it's relatively small fry.

And I would think in any case that after 9 years, Iraq as a whole is no more secure than it was beforehand, oil and all (and certainly not completely or in any way reliably aligned with U.S. interests).

And on a related note, I laugh at those who think that Saddam had the clout to change the pricing currency of oil from USD to EUR (at least in any serious threat to U.S. interests).

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Nice source.

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[QUOTE="jetpower3"]

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

Sure, but I don't care to really delve into the ******* that is 'Star Wars'.

worlock77

Not a fan? I used to be myself, but not so much anymore (maybe just the music).

Growing up nothing was more awesome than 'Star Wars'. I ever carried this love of it with me into adulthood. In my age, however, I have quite gotten over my childhood fascinations.

For me, it seems to invoke the trope Seinfeld is Unfunny. That is, the more something ages and the more you see the same thing over and over, the original work becomes more and more stale and less relevant (unless you have nothing else to compare it to).

Combine that with the aformentioned inconsistencies and poor writing, as well as the jumbled narrratives of the EU, and that's Star Wars for you.

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[QUOTE="jetpower3"]

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

Entirely different discussion.

worlock77

But this is OT ;).

Sure, but I don't care to really delve into the ******* that is 'Star Wars'.

Not a fan? I used to be myself, but not so much anymore (maybe just the music).

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#6 jetpower3
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[QUOTE="jetpower3"]

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

I never really thought of 'Star Wars' as science fiction, but rather fantasy with an outer space backdrop.

worlock77

I'd agree, but I'd also say that with a critical enough eye, Star Wars's canon makes no sense and is full of inconstencies, even in a fantasy setting.

Entirely different discussion.

But this is OT ;). And besides, it's an argument for less Star Wars.

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[QUOTE="Zeviander"][QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"]The less Stars Wars created in any medium the better. worlock77

This. I like science in my sci-fi, not magic.

I never really thought of 'Star Wars' as science fiction, but rather fantasy with an outer space backdrop.

I'd agree, but I'd also say that with a critical enough eye, the Star Wars canon makes no sense and is full of inconstencies, even in a fantasy setting.

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#8 jetpower3
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how many leaders do they have? lol.

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Al Qaeda is more like a franchise than a traditional organization. As long as they have blessing from the ideological leaders like Ayman al-Zawahiri or the late Bin Laden, with some basic direction each unit (cell) can act more or less at its own discretion. Some have been known to just act on their own accord anyway or without any directions (a la lone wolf), but take inspiration. Either way, it's a heavily decentralized brand name more than anything else. That's why after so much counterinsurgency, they have been very tenacious in places like Iraq.

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[QUOTE="jetpower3"]

[QUOTE="whipassmt"] Yes. It happened six years ago today. How'de you know? I remember hearing about this the day after it happened on the car radio on my way to school, the last day of exams for my sophmore year of high school. It was quite exciting really.

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Several more "leaders" of AQIM have been killed since then. Given the clandestine cellular structure of the "organization", it doesn't help as much as it sounds.

Zarqawi was a leader of AQI (al Qaeda in Iraq) not AQIM (al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb).

I was under the understanding that AQIM could also refer to "Al Qaeda in Mesopotamia". Either way, my point still stands, even for the North African branch.

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[QUOTE="hydralisk86"]Uhhh isn't this from 6 years ago? whipassmt

Yes. It happened six years ago today. How'de you know? I remember hearing about this the day after it happened on the car radio on my way to school, the last day of exams for my sophmore year of high school. It was quite exciting really.

Several more "leaders" of AQIM have been killed since then. Given the clandestine cellular structure of the "organization", it doesn't help as much as it sounds.