I wonder if some atheists do not feel that they are part of some sort of exclusive group. Exclusive in the sense that they think they are smart/open enough to see the fallacies of religion and are thus a level higher.

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="Rockman999"]So apparently the movie was made by an Israeli and the coward is also in hiding, what a shocking surprise. :| http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444426404577647330480547246.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_LEFTTopStoriesRockman999

He can insinuate that it was a security failure and not be incorrect. Of all the major cities in Libya, Benghazi seems to be by far the most vulnerable to such violence and influence from armed Islamist groups (including some linked to Al Qaeda). Government forces there are either too weak, or have not been assertive enough, probably out of fear of angering such groups who generally do not answer to anyone but their own commanders.

Just so it is clear, eastern Libya is generally much more pious than the rest of the country. Even during Gaddafi's rule, a very disproportionate number of Libyan foreign fighters in Iraq came from a single eastern city. The fact that violence didn't break out in Tripoli alone should give you a good idea as to the east/west divide of the country. In many respects, Benghazi and Tripoli have historically been dueling capitals, and Gaddafi helped aggravate such rivalry and divide (particularly since eastern Libya had been a bastion of support for former King Idris).

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The reason these people have/need dictators is because that's the kind of leadership it takes to keep them in line---simple as that.

wis3boi

I'm inclined to believe that after this so called arab spring. These rebels would be no better in power than their dictators.

So a government built around one man or family is not going to leave a power vacuum when it completely and inevitably collapses?

The people of Libya and Egypt wouldn't have dared do this under their former leaders. Makes you wonder how much better off the world is now...

UnknownSniper65

Benghazi has already been a hotspot for some violence for awhile now. Even with this attack, the violence and the clout of armed Islamist groups is highly localized in some areas of the east and other places where group grievances and tribal tensions run particularly high (particularly the desert south). The problem isn't a matter of "dictatorship or chaos", but rather the slow-mo task of nation building, which is inherently highly risky and can run into problems with old standards and myopic leadership (the fact that the government is blaming this attack on Gaddafi loyalists is not helping anything).

I would just advise lowering GED age requirements, for those who would rather opt out of the experience, albeit at a disadvantage.

As if there was any doubt.

One often follows the other.

I haven't seen a lot of people doing what you describe. But nothing seems stupider to me than people who try to "jay-run" out across all lanes of traffic.