Wait so he thought that being a cold blooded killer was alright when he first made the movie, and decided later in his old age that it was not cool?
God knows how many crazy things he changes his mind about as he gets older, maybe he'll one day get up and decide that Star Wars is too violent for kids and change the movie into a puppet show.
Thank god he is no longer onboard. You don't get to change your art once its released to the public for decades.
Not a good career move for Jay. There is nothing cool or sexy about being a online gaming nerd, considering his entire fortune is designed around cool and sexy, this is hardly the best career move.
@tony_at_home: Same logic applies during the cultural revolution, intellectuals and artists were taboo, hence people pretended to be dumb and given that the peasant class was the norm, everyone pretended to be peasants.
True freedom is the freedom to be against games like Nude Volleyball, also the freedom to be for games like Nude Volleyball.
What you suggest is that we voice no grievances against those who have turned the US into a Mr Dress Up show, while continuing to allow a single sided norm to become the social fabric of a society. This always leads to fascism.
My suggestion to have an equal amount of both, sexists and feminists, chain smokers and yogurt eaters. That's how a healthy society should be. For every voice against the objectifying of women in media, there should be another voice for the objectifying of women in media.
I started this debate by saying that there is a big problem when feminists can influence the release of a video game, you said there is no issue. That's where our debate lies.
There is a problem, and those against feminists should speak out, there is no right or wrong here, just a difference of opinions. But to voice no opinion over the matter means the feminists have won, and that in itself if not healthy.
@tony_at_home: Not saying we force them to release it. But whenever we here of something like this when a publisher is forced to self censor, we shouldn't support it. Its the social political climate of the USA that is forcing publishers to self censor, so the best thing we can do is to support the publisher and encourage them to publish and not support the people causing the shift in your countries social political climate.
You can't force TECMO to publish, but you can be against those who have created such an restrictive climate in your country, that lead to this.
Every time you nod and say that this is okay, you give those fascists more power, they begin to move more and more towards the left, and more and more things become taboo.
@tony_at_home: You've never lived in a fascist country, so you don't know. Some of us were born into them. It starts small, and it grows.
My point is never ever let self censorship rear its ugly head, its the beginning of the end. It starts with some obscure Volleyball game that nobody cares about, then its volleyball period, then its bikinis, the list goes on and on, and soon you're living in some Mr Dress Up version of the USA that you can't even recognize, then you go back and say I want all those things back, but its too late cause some happy go lucky anti smoking, anti sexist, anti sex, anti transfat, anti violent game, anti boxing, anti football loser is now running the country.
It always starts small, with some self censorship and some odd social norm, and some political correctness, and bit by bit you give up every inch of freedom that's made your country great.
Never give an inch. America should be a chain smoking, sexist, violent game filled, sexual orgy if it wants to be, cause the freedom to be that was what made your nation great to begin with.
I see you trying to sound like Einstein here, so I gotta burst your bubble, can't stand wannabe Einsteins.
You ever heard of SELF CENSORSHIP, its the first step to fascism. Its how the cultural revolution started in China, people stopped acting like intellectuals or artists because it was considered taboo, so people slowly hid their true personalities to suit the ideals of the masses, intellectuals pretended to be morons, artists pretended to be farmers, all to satisfy the will of the so called masses.
Self Censorship due to public pressure is the beginning of fascism. The very ideal that your forefathers fought against.
Sexism is taboo in the west, portraying women in a sexist manner in media is considered bad, hence people begin to self censor themselves to conform to the will of your new western ideals, even though such norms goes against baser human instincts, people still hide themselves and pretend to be part of your so called modern utopia, people who are against such ludicrous social norms are shunned and hence media begin to apply self censorship for fear of media backlash.
Go do some research kld, this is exactly how the cultural revolution started in China, because Chairman Mao dictated that arts and culture were evil and that a nation should consist entirely of peasants. This so called social norm lead to the eventual death of millions and millions of artists and intellectuals.
This is a dangerous road the west is walking towards, because self censorship is the beginning of fascism, Some of you kids are too young and too naive to understand how the world really works.
Art should never be censored regardless of what form its in. End of story.
Self censorship is the first step to fascism, millions people died in WWII so that the west can be free, yet this generation seems to want to bring back fascist ideals such as media censorship, Why?
People in the west complain about places like China that have heavy handed censorship laws, yet are happy to self censor themselves? A game that is too sexist to be released in the west, sounds like something Chairman Mao would say.
The irony of western civilization never ceases to amaze.
@sol_pro: Actually I like to own every console every gen, I'm a full grown adult, I can afford to own everything, they are only about 400 a pop. And I already said that I'm getting the new XB1 Slim so how am I a Sony pony?
In fact I've never owned a Sony laptop due to their ugly design I prefer Thinkpads.
You can't be serious if you think an old VHS Player looks good, cause that's what XB1 looks like.
@gtx_780ti_sli: Its not just the size, but the old school Beta Tape design turns me off as well. So, I'm waiting for the smaller better looking version to come out.
For me size and aesthetics are just as important as performance, its always been that way for me.
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