...that is not true at all, though it does exemplify a growing trend in societal views on behavior and thinking. Just b/c you can't help something does not mean that it is not your fault. When people have disorders, we usually try and correct things about the person...this would not be the case if the fault did not come from within...from themrawsavonI know this isnt your op, but since he cant help it, how does it make it his fault? How does it not. If you think something, it is your thought. If you act in some way that results in some consequence, it was your act. Think about how psychology attempts to help people with disorders (things they can't help). We do not attempt to change the things around the person (99% of the time). We attempt to change the individual...the ways they act...the ways they think...they ways they attempt to solve problems. Why? B/c the cause of the problem...the fault...lies w/in To stay on topic, pedophilia is a disorder If you act on it, yes its your fault, but you can help pedophillia. You said in general "just because you cant help something, dosent make it your fault". Well, if you dont think they way that "normal" people think. And when faced with a situation, you see it as something else, how is that your fault? You can argue, but only the certain individual could truly know thier train of thought. Its easy to blame them when you dont know how they think. Hence why they do deep investigations when the insanity plea is used.
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Pft....he doesn't tolerate divergent opinions or he'd not have made a disparaging remark about my music taste in the other thread. Well, you dont take music seriously. So why do you have your sig like you do? I was simply asking for clarification. Could i have rephrased it better? Probably.[QUOTE="testfactor888"] Opinions can't be wrong since opinions are subjective.LJS9502_basic
[QUOTE="kipohippo021"][QUOTE="daqua_99"]People have different opinions. Deal with it.LJS9502_basicAhhh, read through the whole thing. Im not arguing that thier opinion is invalid. But muslims are very diffrent from muslim extremists, so seeing the building as a "threat" because of the terrorist attacks, is factually wrong. If it was the muslim religion to have done that, then i could see that being okay. But since muslims are not all suicide bombers, id have to find that opinion quite disgusting. Im not going to disagree with you, only state the facts and move on. After your comment in the thread about taking things seriously.....I find that you like to argue opinion as well. :| Im stating a fact. Unless all muslims are indeed terrorists, saying that the mosque is insulting because its saying "look what we did to you" is factually wrong since muslim extremists did the act and not muslims.
[QUOTE="kipohippo021"][QUOTE="MichBelle"]I'm disturbed that you think people aren't entitled to their own opinions.testfactor888I do realize they can have diffrent opinions. Im a very tolerant person. But the basis on which these opinions are formed are all wrong. Opinions can't be wrong since opinions are subjective. I mean that they are factually wrong and plain intolerant.
[QUOTE="rawsavon"] Are you asking my opinion or about the legality
Your opinion. Legally the insanity plea exists.
What I meant was that legally we could never change it (no matter what anyone thinks)...unless we rewrite almost all of laws dealing with criminal and contract issues. My opinion is that the ability to control or understand is not required to establish fault in any matter Rawsavon, i know you have been drunk before. You know how you say what you think? Well, thats your fault since its what you think. Now, i dont know if you have ever done anything else. And ill pray to god that i dont get modded for addmiting this. But in my ol' days of acid and crack, i can tell you that i said things i didnt mean to say, ive done things i didnt mean to do. My words and actions had no basis on what my actual opinons are. If i was on acid, and i thought somone was legitematly trying to kill me, so i killed him when i thought he was attacking, what was i supposed to do? Its self defense on my part, and completley understandable. Its worse when you are considering a mental condition.[QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]...that is not true at all, though it does exemplify a growing trend in societal views on behavior and thinking. Just b/c you can't help something does not mean that it is not your fault. When people have disorders, we usually try and correct things about the person...this would not be the case if the fault did not come from within...from them I know this isnt your op, but since he cant help it, how does it make it his fault?Dude I got one thing of advise. If you can't help it, its not your fault. Don't feel bad.
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