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#1 knowledge-funk
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Lmao, o don't worry man, ALOT more factual and logical then zeitgest.

I say give it a chance, you've got nothing to lose from it.

Some info on the movie:

"One Actor, One Room, Seven Characters: 9/11.

Traumatized by the September 11th attacks, one man struggles to dismantle official history, ...all»at the expense of his sanity and even his life. Grappling with multiple realities - and multiple personalities - he must retreat into his mind in pursuit of the truth. In a fictional film about non-fictional events, there is a place where belief and faith will blind you, where nothing is sacred, and to get there all you have to do is ask:

"Who Killed John O'Neill?"

a dead art film by ty rauber and ryan thurston"

Some reviews on it:

"It's difficult to know what facet of this little movie is most intriguing: the seemingly unending factual web regarding 911 governmental/corporate ties, the way the subject's obsession affects what many would mistake for parts of a fractured personality, the monochrome format that goes a long way toward not distracting from a fast and furious internal dialog played out in a single mind's eye, the myriad of insightful socio/political observations or how it's all artistically brought together. The idea that this video was written, performed and created by only two people is at least fascinating. Perhaps genius..."

"You can find the beauty of the movie in the simplicity of how it sends his message: whatever happened, the official story is just a big lie."

"The idea to make a film like this alone is more than great. While at first I thought 'what the heck?', after ten minutes or so it had GOT me.
The atmosphere this movie creates is freightening, gripping, leaves you disturbed. Love it. Hate it. Fear it. It's great. Far better than anything the mainstream produces.
Thank you guys!"

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Unraveling the Myth of Al Qaida

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=7787

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This is an open challenge to all, to debunk the following video.

WHO KILLED JOHN O'NEIL

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3857917663523144457&q=Who+killed+John+O%27Neil%3F&total=39&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

"What if the CIA had shared information with the FBI back in Jan. 2001 about a meeting in Malaysia and a participant named Khallad? It was information that might have helped O'Neill connect the dots to the 9/11 conspirators.

And what if O'Neill had been able to return to Yemen and the FBI's Cole investigation back in Jan. 2001 to interrograte Fahad al-Quso. Al-Quso had been picked up early in the Cole probe--and al-Quso also had connections to that Malaysia meeting and had met with 9/11 hijackers who had attended it.

In September 2002, agents and officials from the CIA and FBI testified before a joint congressional panel about how their security agencies failed to fully share information about suspected terrorists and their activities in the months leading up to the Sept. 11 attacks.

As much as anyone working in counterterrorism, John O'Neill knew about this communication breakdown. In fact, just two months before Sept. 11, in a speech to Spanish police on interagency cooperation, he had asked his audience, "How much more successful could we all be if we really knew what our agencies really knew?" O'Neill's last major FBI investigation -- the attack on the USS Cole on Oct. 12, 2000 -- was a case study of just how bad inter-agency communication had become."

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/knew/could/

"John O'Neil started his new job as Head of Security at the World Trade Center on 9-11-01 His body was indentified by his employer Kroll Associates. TWO WEEKS, prior to the attack, O'Neill had left his job with the FBI. O'Neill had quit because he believed that the Bush administration had stymied the intelligence agency's investigations on terrorism. O'Neill charged that it had done so even as it bargained with the Taliban on handing over of Osama bin Laden in exchange for political recognition and economic aid. In the ultimate irony, O'Neill had gone public with these charges at the same time that he was leaving the FBI to become the head of security at the World Trade Center. "

http://wkjo.com/

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#4 knowledge-funk
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i think it's entirely possible (although highly improbable) that they simply allowed it to happen. It would not be unique in history by any measure, and i wouldn't count on some in the Bush clique to hold themselves ethically above such measures if they had enough to gain. But then again i am an incurable cynic. There certainly are aspects that in the least could lead you to believe they were planning to exploit an event such as the wtc/ pentagon attacks.shivaskunk9mm

It is a fact and proven that they had prior knowledge of it.

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[QUOTE="knowledge-funk"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Arab_2008"]American government attempt (which worked) to persuade its citizens to go to war with a nation that had nothing to do with America, other than America itself interfering in the middle east!LJS9502_basic

Absolutely false.......

I'm not saying that he is correct, but what is false about it?

Going from his name and sig, this subject is obv personal for him. Many are dead. What gave americans the right to do so? Why not leave other countries alone instead increasing its debt by starting uneeded chaos.

The entire statement is false....that's what's false about it. The Iraq War was not about 911. It didn't need 911....it was for different reasons and whether one agrees with it or not......it wasn't over the terrorists.

Period.

Sorry, I mean't how is this false

"go to war with a nation that had nothing to do with America, other than America itself interfering in the middle east!"
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[QUOTE="Arab_2008"]American government attempt (which worked) to persuade its citizens to go to war with a nation that had nothing to do with America, other than America itself interfering in the middle east!LJS9502_basic

Absolutely false.......

I'm not saying that he is correct, but what is false about it?

Going from his name and sig, this subject is obv personal for him. Many are dead. What gave americans the right to do so? Why not leave other countries alone instead increasing its debt by starting uneeded chaos.

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#7 knowledge-funk
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Everything you have as an argument piece is at BEST mildly circumstantial and at worst completely idiotic. Lots of people who are a lot more qualified than you are have looked into this over and over and over and found nothing even remotely indicative of a conspiracy. I'll trust them over you. Sorry.Alter_Echo

who?

i could say the same; vice versa

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#8 knowledge-funk
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[QUOTE="knowledge-funk"]

not sure what you mean/not clear with religious terms

LJS9502_basic

Nothing religious about my statement dude.:| It means that the conspiracy theories have all been ripped apart and exposed for the lies they are.

ok rip my "theory" apart?

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Even if allowing 911 to happen was the intention of a few people something like that would have NEVER happened. There would have been too many people involved and at least one of them would have felt bad enough to leak something to the media.

In this age you just dont have a secret that big and have it NOT get out in the open unless you and only you know about it.

Regardless of how much plausible information you have if you think it went down the way you are saying you need to check your own reality and not the reality of this situation.

And like the wise person above me said, had it been his intention to simply justify going to war he could have made that happen in an infinite number of different ways none of which involved killing 3k people.

Alter_Echo

we do not know the intention of it.

there have been those who have leaked the info, sadly they are immedietly named crazy conspiracy theoriest

in result, they create movie and such on intrenet to release their word

what are they suppose to do go to the corrupt media?

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[QUOTE="knowledge-funk"][QUOTE="streak000"]

Man, you're worse than those Christian fanatics. What you propose is pure fantasy, and has no basis in reality. I say this because your confused theories on what happened that day simply make no sense.

I mean, why would George Bush, as much as I dislike him, choose to murder 3 thousands of his own citizens? There are other, much simpler methods and excuses for him to invade another country or to start a "war on terror". It's nothing but a loony conspiracy theory without a shred of credible evidence. And the more you insist on it, the more you seem like a fool. So please give it a rest......

Alter_Echo

Do not insult me man. No I am not crazy. I simply choose to question what is given to me. Once you begin to question, you will have a different outlook on events.

No, I do not know the "Real" reason that 9/11 occured; noone will every know, unless the truth is set free.

I however do know that reason the governemnt created is false and this has been proven. Since you prob wont even pay any attention what I am saying, I'm not gonna bother showing my evidence b/e I have countless time

research yourself buddy

I have a friend who owns a bridge in brooklyn. Since im sure you arent interested in buying it i wont link you the purchase information.

"Man, you're worse than those Christian fanatics. What you propose is pure fantasy, and has no basis in reality"

"the more you seem like a fool. So please give it a rest"