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#1 knowledge-funk
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Man, you're worse than those Christian fanatics. What you propose is pure fantasy, and has no basis in reality. I say this because your confused theories on what happened that day simply make no sense.

I mean, why would George Bush, as much as I dislike him, choose to murder 3 thousands of his own citizens? There are other, much simpler methods and excuses for him to invade another country or to start a "war on terror". It's nothing but a loony conspiracy theory without a shred of credible evidence. And the more you insist on it, the more you seem like a fool. So please give it a rest......

streak000

Do not insult me man. No I am not crazy. I simply choose to question what is given to me. Once you begin to question, you will have a different outlook on events.

No, I do not know the "Real" reason that 9/11 occured; noone will every know, unless the truth is set free.

I however do know that reason the governemnt created is false and this has been proven. Since you prob wont even pay any attention what I am saying, I'm not gonna bother showing my evidence b/e I have countless time

research yourself buddy

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#2 knowledge-funk
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For those of you who acually have interest of researching both sides, heres an article on prior knowledge of 911.

"
ADVANCE WARNINGS

The days and hours leading up to 9-11 were marked by a series of chilling warnings about impending terrorist plots involving hijacked commercial airplanes. It's worth mentioning at this point that months before 9-11, the US had already informed some of its allies of plans to go to war in Afghanistan. On June 26, 2001, News Insight/India Reacts, an Indian public affairs magazine, wrote:

"India and Iran will "facilitate" US and Russian plans for "limited military action" against the Taliban if the contemplated tough new economic sanctions don't bend Afghanistan's fundamentalist regime. Indian officials say that India and Iran will only play the role of "facilitator" while the US and Russia will combat the Taliban from the front with the help of two Central Asian countries, Tajikistan and Uzbekistan, to push Taliban lines back to the 1998 position 50 km away from Mazar-e-Sharief city in northern Afghanistan. Military action will be the last option though it now seems scarcely avoidable with the UN banned from Taliban-controlled areas"

The story of US military involvement in Afghanistan was reported months before 9-11 in Indian and British publications but it was never reported in the US media. With the military plans already in motion since at least June of 2001, all that was needed was for an "incident" to take place to justify the US going to "war against Terrorism" in Afghanistan.

Here are just a few of the advance warnings which were brought to light in the aftermath of 9-11:

The London Daily Telegraph reported on September 16, 2001:

"The Telegraph has learned that two senior experts with Mossad, the Israeli military intelligence service, were sent to Washington in August to alert the FBI and CIA to the existence of a cell of as many as 200 terrorists said to be preparing a big operation. They had no specific information about what was being planned but linked the plot to Osama Bin Laden and told American officials that there were strong grounds for suspecting Iraqi involvement."

Do you smell a "false flag" operation in the works? How is possible that the Mossad knew of the existence of these 200 terrorists but could not name or locate a single one? And how convenient for Israel that Saddam Hussein should be in cahoots with Osama Bin Laden, despite the fact that Bin Laden and Hussein hate each other!

The Franfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, (FAZ) one of Germany's most respected newspapers, quoted German intelligence sources who said that the Echelon electronic spy network gave US and Israeli intelligence agencies several warnings that suicidal hijack attacks were being planned against US targets. Echelon is capable of monitoring all of the electronic communication in the world. Utilizing 120 satellites, the Echelon system is designed to suck up enormous amounts of data by using keyword search techniques to sift through the data.

The San Francisco Chronicle reported on September 12 that San Francisco Mayor and former California Assembly Speaker Willie Brown was advised eight hours before the attacks that he should be careful about flying on 9-11. 54

In its September 24, 2001 issue, Newsweek Magazine broke this startling revelation:

"Three weeks ago there was another warning that a terrorist strike might be imminent… On September 10, Newsweek has learned, a group of top Pentagon officials suddenly cancelled travel plans for the next morning, apparently because of security concerns.". 55 (emphasis added)

Wow! Could these unnamed "top Pentagon officials" have been some of the Zionist directors of the Defense Policy Board which we talked about earlier? If these Pentagon officials were scared enough not to fly, then why didn't the Pentagon place the Air Force on full alert? How could they have been so slow to react to 9-11 when they already knew there was a threat?

On September 27, The Washington Post reported that two workers of the Israeli company Odigo (with offices also in New York) received instant message warnings just two hours before the attacks. Here's an excerpt from the Washington Post:

"Officials at instant-messaging firm Odigo confirmed today that two employees received text messages warning of an attack on the World Trade Center two hours before terrorists crashed planes into the New York landmarks" 56

Soon after the attacks, the Odigo employees informed the management of the electronic message they had received. Israeli security services were contacted and the FBI was informed. Nothing has been heard about this event since. I think it's safe to say that "Islamic terrorists" would not have been considerate enough to send detailed E-mail warnings to some obscure Israeli office workers. "

54 http://www.sfgate.com/today/0912_chron_mnreport.shtml

55 http://propagandamatrix.com/pentagon_officials_safe.htm

56 http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/01/09/WTC_Odigo.html

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#3 knowledge-funk
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I dont like bush anymore than the next guy but if you honestly think he would withold info and allow this to happen or cause it himself for political gain.... you really need a reality check.

There are some things that if looked upon from a certain angle look slightly suspect. This is sheer coincidence at best and at worst its just some idiot reading between the lines.

There was NO conspiracy. There never was. Period. All you X-files, "the truth is out there", doomsday followers need to wake up.

Alter_Echo

"All you X-files, "the truth is out there", doomsday followers need to wake up."

Don't really get that part :S

I had been viewing 9/11 from the govenments stance for 4 years man, and soonI relaized it didn't add up.

I do not know the real reason why 9/11 occured; but I however do know that the governments explantion for it is false.

I suggest that you study this. Truly, find artciles, reports, watch movies on it. Research this yourself and then make your claims.

It may be hard at first to think that your govrenemnt would ever do such a thing; but you must learn to view things from the other side. Study all theories of 9/11 carefully, and than comeback.

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#4 knowledge-funk
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OK, one of my family members died in that incident so don't even talk to me about respect for the dead, I personaly don't like to look back at things like that, that's why i make jokes. so sue me.chazer127

my wife died in that day, so I understand the grief.

but I say you either don't look back and don't post in this thread where I'm trying to debate the real cause of 9/11, or don't make jokes about it. Because I'm serious about this, for some reason, most of you seem to think I'm a young joke, with no research on this topic.

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#5 knowledge-funk
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then dont post it on the OT forum then, if you want an real anser post it in another forum.

chazer127

man. as a citizen of this world you should give respect to those who died in the horrible day. do not state to post in other forum: because this if an OT forum anyways. Everyone has to ability to act mature; if your going to respond with a joke that at first makes no sense and will offend many, then don't even bother posting in this thread.

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#6 knowledge-funk
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My bet is that a couple of people decided to go crazy and flew into the nearest building, it was the WTC, the WTC collapsed and killed 1000s of people, then Chuck Norris went crazy and killed the old lady with a shotgunchazer127

jokes and 9/11 shouldn't mix.

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#7 knowledge-funk
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[QUOTE="knowledge-funk"][QUOTE="knowledge-funk"][QUOTE="Godly_Cure"][QUOTE="knowledge-funk"]

look at the history of al-queda; who has funded it; what was it used for; and then come back to me and tell me its not.

you base your belief on news reports on cnn. that is not credible. what else you expct them to tell you?

Truth_Seekr

:roll: I'd rather base it on experts than paranoid conspiracies.

they may be experts as you state. but the those media corporation are all owned the corrupt ones. look at the history of all the major networks. I already provided links on this, but since none of you seem to care about it, research it yourself

http://www.mediachannel.org/ownership/chart.shtml

http://www.cjr.org/resources/

http://www.thenation.com/special/bigten.html

http://www.corporations.org/media/

http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=7&issue_area_id=6

http://www.nowfoundation.org/issues/communications/tv/mediacontrol.html

Unless you already did, You should check out these vids.

The Corporation Part 1
The Corporation Part 2

America: Freedom to Fascism

RIP Aaron Russo

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[QUOTE="Godly_Cure"][QUOTE="knowledge-funk"]

look at the history of al-queda; who has funded it; what was it used for; and then come back to me and tell me its not.

you base your belief on news reports on cnn. that is not credible. what else you expct them to tell you?

knowledge-funk

:roll: I'd rather base it on experts than paranoid conspiracies.

they may be experts as you state. but the those media corporation are all owned the corrupt ones. look at the history of all the major networks. I already provided links on this, but since none of you seem to care about it, research it yourself

http://www.mediachannel.org/ownership/chart.shtml

http://www.cjr.org/resources/

http://www.thenation.com/special/bigten.html

http://www.corporations.org/media/

http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=7&issue_area_id=6

http://www.nowfoundation.org/issues/communications/tv/mediacontrol.html

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[QUOTE="knowledge-funk"]

how so? i provided a link in which debunked the full story publicly.there is a reason the commission report in no longer used.

LJS9502_basic

NO conspiracy has stood up to scrutiny.

not sure what you mean/not clear with religious terms

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[QUOTE="knowledge-funk"]

look at the history of al-queda; who has funded it; what was it used for; and then come back to me and tell me its not.

you base your belief on news reports on cnn. that is not credible. what else you expct them to tell you?

Godly_Cure

:roll: I'd rather base it on experts than paranoid conspiracies.

they may be experts as you state. but the those media corporation are all owned the corrupt ones. look at the history of all the major networks. I already provided links on this, but since none of you seem to care about it, research it yourself