[QUOTE="xsubtownerx"][QUOTE="jdt532"][QUOTE="michael098"][QUOTE="xsubtownerx"][QUOTE="michael098"]

[QUOTE="jdt532"]Once again the 360 is restricting games... If this game were PS3 exclusive it could be 50% to 80% BIGGER than Oblivion due to Blu-Ray capacity...jdt532

Lol, you don't have a clue what your talking about do you?

I don't think he does. All gamers want a 50gig install..

Lol yea, apparently the more data a game has the better it is....

Yeah because I've said many times now that more game data automatically equals better games, right..... :roll:

So what is your point then? If Oblivion was 80% bigger, holy crap it would suck that much more. So please explain your point to me.

I think I've explained enough... Go back and read all my posts not just one or two....

Like the post that PC games need the disk to to speed up performance and loading time and not because of piracy reasons? Lmao :lol:

[QUOTE="michael098"][QUOTE="xsubtownerx"][QUOTE="michael098"]

[QUOTE="jdt532"]Once again the 360 is restricting games... If this game were PS3 exclusive it could be 50% to 80% BIGGER than Oblivion due to Blu-Ray capacity...jdt532

Lol, you don't have a clue what your talking about do you?

I don't think he does. All gamers want a 50gig install..

Lol yea, apparently the more data a game has the better it is....

Yeah because I've said many times now that more game data automatically equals better games, right..... :roll:

Not in those words but you made it pretty clear to everyone that you think DVD9 is limiting the game.

[QUOTE="michael098"][QUOTE="jdt532"][QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"][QUOTE="jdt532"][QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"][QUOTE="jdt532"]

[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]I wont mind as long as there isnt as much rehashing as there was in Oblivion.jdt532

There's a reason why they had to reuse textures, audio files, etc. over and over and over again, that's because of the limited capacity of DVD... With fallout they will make the game allot smaller so they wont have to reuse stuff.... as much.

The reason they reused textures, audio files, ect over and over agian is to save money. Oblivion took up 4.6 GB of hard drive space, DVD 9 is like 8 GB. Making textures, and audio files cost money and take time, Blu-Ray doesn't magically make the game longer, have more textures or audio files

It's not about saving money dude, don't be naive... Explain to me why R&C Future has 15+ levels that are huge and packed with high detail textures and every level is completely different... Doesn't Insomniac have a budget to work with too?... Oh and I'm sure Oblivion is over 7GB which is just about the limit of DVD-9 capacity....

Looking at the requirements for the PC you will need 4.6 GB to install it.

For R&C, Insomniac is a fairly big company and I think Sony helped. Althought can't really say much about it haven't played it yet (not very high on the list Platform games are not really my cup of tea)

You do know that the entire game isn't in installed on the PC right? That's why you still have to use a disk in the disk drive when you play most PC games. It's like the PS3 where you install part of the game data to increase loading times and performance.

Dude just shutup, seriously your making yourself sound like an idiot, the reason you have to put the disk in the comp when you start a game is because there is a tiny file which is not installed on your hardrive that tells you have the original copy, once the game boots up you can take the disk out, that's why you can download a fixed .exe so the game doesn't check for the file. Stop making BS up.

Read my last post dude... Oblivion is 7GB...

I was replying to you saying most PC games require you to have the disk in the drive after installation to stream data not installed on the PC to speed up performance and loading.......which is not true. I don't really care how big oblivion was or if fallout 3 will be half the size, oblivion was mainly empty.

[QUOTE="michael098"]

[QUOTE="jdt532"]Once again the 360 is restricting games... If this game were PS3 exclusive it could be 50% to 80% BIGGER than Oblivion due to Blu-Ray capacity...xsubtownerx

Lol, you don't have a clue what your talking about do you?

I don't think he does. All gamers want a 50gig install..

Lol yea, apparently the more data a game has the better it is....

[QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"][QUOTE="jdt532"][QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"][QUOTE="jdt532"]

[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]I wont mind as long as there isnt as much rehashing as there was in Oblivion.jdt532

There's a reason why they had to reuse textures, audio files, etc. over and over and over again, that's because of the limited capacity of DVD... With fallout they will make the game allot smaller so they wont have to reuse stuff.... as much.

The reason they reused textures, audio files, ect over and over agian is to save money. Oblivion took up 4.6 GB of hard drive space, DVD 9 is like 8 GB. Making textures, and audio files cost money and take time, Blu-Ray doesn't magically make the game longer, have more textures or audio files

It's not about saving money dude, don't be naive... Explain to me why R&C Future has 15+ levels that are huge and packed with high detail textures and every level is completely different... Doesn't Insomniac have a budget to work with too?... Oh and I'm sure Oblivion is over 7GB which is just about the limit of DVD-9 capacity....

Looking at the requirements for the PC you will need 4.6 GB to install it.

For R&C, Insomniac is a fairly big company and I think Sony helped. Althought can't really say much about it haven't played it yet (not very high on the list Platform games are not really my cup of tea)

You do know that the entire game isn't in installed on the PC right? That's why you still have to use a disk in the disk drive when you play most PC games. It's like the PS3 where you install part of the game data to increase loading times and performance.

Dude just shutup, seriously your making yourself sound like an idiot, the reason you have to put the disk in the comp when you start a game is because there is a tiny file which is not installed on your hardrive that tells you have the original copy, once the game boots up you can take the disk out, that's why you can download a fixed .exe so the game doesn't check for the file. Stop making BS up.

Once again the 360 is restricting games... If this game were PS3 exclusive it could be 50% to 80% BIGGER than Oblivion due to Blu-Ray capacity...jdt532

Lol, you don't have a clue what your talking about do you?

What is with the trend of people bringing up 4D games? Any educated person would know it isn't POSSIBLE.

Heck, the games we play now are still only 2D, technically. They just APPEAR 3D. A nice little trick, honestly. If we can't play games in TRUE 3D, what makes anyone expect we can see games in 4D?

wiretoss

Seems like you are the one that needs an education on this topic, people have provided many links so you can understand that 4D graphics does not mean 4 dimensions!!!!!!! Its referring to the effects time has on objects, this is done through dynamic procedural textures and i think even geometry! The is a video that was posted on a thread afew days ago (and is most likely posted in this one too) that gives you an example of 4D buy showing a render of a bathroom aging over time with textures dynamically being applied to the environments to show mold, dirt, cracks and other things to show the bathroom is getting old, even the mirror would crack the the reflection would fade. don't get this confused with leaving an area of a game and returning to it and its different, this is all dynamic so you could stand in the same place of a long time and actually see the textures change.