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I don't want to upgrade to the xbox360 Elite but I am interested in IPTV that will be released in the near future. Will this service work on my current xbox360 premium or would I need to upgrade to the Elite that as the HDMI port?
I agree 100% BIG mistake!Sorry about my previous thread earlier.....I did not see the sticky.....ok.......mark the day when the Elite was announced......because this is a mistake and is the opening in the door Sony needed.....
Elite is:
Overpriced
Causes Confusion (3 SKUS now....WTF)
HDMI should have been added w/o a new price point or been released initially with the Xbox 360.
MikeE21286
[QUOTE="Felous1"]Nice post Felous xbox360 still more cheap than the ps3 even if the different is not that big The problem with this is that Blue Ray is looking more and more like the winner in the next gen format war. So, if you purchase the xbox360 HD-DVD drive then you will prob be left in the cold in the future.http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3158279
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With both consoles missing functionality and features that the other has out of the box (we're not even going to make an online functionality joke, yet) it's important that we try and find the most realistic solutions to problems like the 360's lack of Wireless Internet out of the box or Sony's lack of an HDMI (and component cable) out of the box. For these problems, we're using first party solutions, because we expect that both companies will offer first party solutions. However, as is typically the case, the first party solutions are often times not the most affordable, so we'll include other options to give readers an idea of the potential price range for the products.
The numbers below aren't a perfect solution, this is an inexact science. There are cheaper alternatives and bargains to be found when purchasing accessories. For example, the Monoprice HDMI cable is just a fraction of the Sony****first party HDMI cable. Or for some consumers, maybe next-gen DVD doesn't matter, so they could knock $199.99 off of the total cost of a "complete 360 experience."
We included the cost of Live, not as a measure of Live versus PlayStation Network, but because of the most basic level of functionality that PlayStation Network allows. Out of the box, players can play online with and against other players for free. At the most basic of levels, in order to do the same on the Xbox 360, one has to pay for the service. Obviously, we recognize that Xbox Live in its current form offers a much more feature-rich online experience than PlayStation Network. But, in order to play against other people online on both platforms -- you have to pay on one and not the other. The numbers reflect that.
didgital movie downloads arent a great option for a lot of people or most people. how are you gonna let people borrow a movie ? well you cant, what if the drive craps out ? you gonna have to download those movies all over again, most people just want physical mediums they can show off to people, stack next to their TV, and let people borrow and its more comfortable to just have the movie in ur hands. they are playing this digital download thing to serious and thats dangerous. and many companies still arent comfortable with the idea due to piracy issuesMe_Ur_Daddy_Good point. Its easier to just throw in a DVD than to spend a good 20-40 mins downloading a movie. People these days are pretty impatient. I thought Sony was insane when they created the PS3. I thought it was overkill. However, as time goes on, it looks more and more that they may be the last ones laughing with this gen is over. I think with a good price drop, that they will be back in the game and very well could win it again. Out of the 3, there system is far and beyond the one built for the future. This pains me to say because I'm such a big MS and xbox360 fan, but its true.
[QUOTE="CwlHeddwyn"][QUOTE="neversummer75"]Very good points. I really think MS thinks that Blue Ray will win out. Thats why they are really pushing the online content. the only reason to get a PS3 is for the cheap BluRay drive- which is tempting i know- but i think Microsoft is playing the online downloads angle- they realise that the days of HD-DVD could be numbered so releasing a big HDD just after a movie downloads service makes sense. as internet connections get faster & faster u can download movies pretty quickly. If MS released a HD-DVD drive with the Elite then that could risk backlash from the fans plus reduce the demand for the online download service. Really good points. I really think MS things that Blue Ray will win out. Thats why they are really pushing the online content. If not, then MS would be screwedI own a xbox360 and only a xbox360. I'm a huge fan of MS and have been nothing but critical of Sony and the PS3 in the past. However, after much consideration, I've come to the conclusion that the PS3 is a better value than the xbox360 Elite. With a built in high def BlueRay player, built in WiFi, memory card slot readers, multiple usb ports and built in blue tooth, standard HDMI, the PS3 is packed with features. With my xbox360, I have the WiFi adapter, the HD-DVD drive and the charge kit.
So, as you can see I like to watch high def movies with my xbox360 on my panasonic high def TV. Some of you may not be interested in watching High def movies but I am. Furthermore, as of right now it looks like BlueRay is going to win the format war. So in my oppinion, for me and my interests, the PS3 is a better value.
Does that mean I'm going to go out and purchase the PS3 right now? Wrong! I'm going to give it a year or so more to see how things play out. I never thought I would ever say this but I'm very tempted to switch over to the PS3. The only real thing keeping me with MS and the xbox360 is that 1) I already own a xbox360 and dont want to spend more money on the PS3 right now, 2) xboxlive is amazing, 3) Halo 3.
If Sony can some how get there online service to be on par or evern somewhat close to that of xboxlive and there is a price drop in the somewhat near future, I may be VERY VERY tempted to switch over. I would have never dreamed about doing this until the Elite was anounced.
It's just that the more I think about it and the more I think about what I want in a console and what I will be using the console for, the PS3 is starting to look more of a better value and more future proof than what the xbox360 currently offers. It also maked me kinda nervous that MS is always looking to change and revise the xbox360. I dont want to keep buying the system and then finding out later there is going to be a better version that is going to be released. I dont think that will happen to the PS3 on such a scale. I will give it another year to see how things play out. For now I will continue to use my xbox360.
neversummer75
[QUOTE="neversummer75"]Very good points. I really think MS thinks that Blue Ray will win out. Thats why they are really pushing the online content. the only reason to get a PS3 is for the cheap BluRay drive- which is tempting i know- but i think Microsoft is playing the online downloads angle- they realise that the days of HD-DVD could be numbered so releasing a big HDD just after a movie downloads service makes sense. as internet connections get faster & faster u can download movies pretty quickly. If MS released a HD-DVD drive with the Elite then that could risk backlash from the fans plus reduce the demand for the online download service.I own a xbox360 and only a xbox360. I'm a huge fan of MS and have been nothing but critical of Sony and the PS3 in the past. However, after much consideration, I've come to the conclusion that the PS3 is a better value than the xbox360 Elite. With a built in high def BlueRay player, built in WiFi, memory card slot readers, multiple usb ports and built in blue tooth, standard HDMI, the PS3 is packed with features. With my xbox360, I have the WiFi adapter, the HD-DVD drive and the charge kit.
So, as you can see I like to watch high def movies with my xbox360 on my panasonic high def TV. Some of you may not be interested in watching High def movies but I am. Furthermore, as of right now it looks like BlueRay is going to win the format war. So in my oppinion, for me and my interests, the PS3 is a better value.
Does that mean I'm going to go out and purchase the PS3 right now? Wrong! I'm going to give it a year or so more to see how things play out. I never thought I would ever say this but I'm very tempted to switch over to the PS3. The only real thing keeping me with MS and the xbox360 is that 1) I already own a xbox360 and dont want to spend more money on the PS3 right now, 2) xboxlive is amazing, 3) Halo 3.
If Sony can some how get there online service to be on par or evern somewhat close to that of xboxlive and there is a price drop in the somewhat near future, I may be VERY VERY tempted to switch over. I would have never dreamed about doing this until the Elite was anounced.
It's just that the more I think about it and the more I think about what I want in a console and what I will be using the console for, the PS3 is starting to look more of a better value and more future proof than what the xbox360 currently offers. It also maked me kinda nervous that MS is always looking to change and revise the xbox360. I dont want to keep buying the system and then finding out later there is going to be a better version that is going to be released. I dont think that will happen to the PS3 on such a scale. I will give it another year to see how things play out. For now I will continue to use my xbox360.
CwlHeddwyn
[QUOTE="InfamousC"]anyone who is not an blind fanboy realizes ps3 is a better value then the xbox 360.neversummer75Before the Elite was anounced I was convinced that the xbox360 was a better value. It was a lot cheaper. Now that MS is releasing an Elite version with no next gen video format, the PS3 is looking like a much better deal. For 20 bucks more I can get a blueRay player (which is looking more and more like the nect gen format winner). I really think this is going to back fire on MS. In my mind, this is a really bad move. My brother and a few of his friends, who were planning on getting the xbox360 are not thinking about getting the PS3 instead. All of this because of the xbox360 elite. They read the news about this new version of the xbox360 on cnn.com. Sorry, they ARE thinking of getting a PS3 now because of the xbox360 Elite. Just had to fix that.
[QUOTE="XTy"]where is the wifi in the $500 PS3?[QUOTE="subrosian"][QUOTE="Giancar"]The Sony online service will be amazing....I can't wait to the PSHome beta.... I also agree, where's the HD DVD built in???? or WI FI?subrosian
Okay forget that, for $20 you can get a NExt Generation Format Player...that's awesome. For another $50, you hcan have upgrade that $500 PS3's HDD to 200gigs if you wanted(Not neededuntil Sony has a better service. For gaming 20gigs is just fine, i have a 360 after all for over a year now. 20gigs fine for gamers.)
In the end, the Elite shows consumers that the PS3 is a value, and I don't hate the PS3 as much as I used to do to M$ forgetting to put in HDDVD or Bluray Playback.
$50 for a 200gb laptop hard drive? Oh really? Newegg having a good special or something? I don't want a next gen movie player, I want a game system that's proven it's going to provide hit games, along with a proven online service. At this point I've come to the conclusion that this generation is going to hurt my wallet no matter what I do - so I'm keen on just getting one console and sticking with it. The PS3 does not give me any confidence in its ability to get exclusive games I can actually care about. Instead I keep getting told to "wait" and "be patient" - I've been patient for Elite, how much longer must I wait for this generation to start? Seriously - congrats, you can watch casino royale (excellent movie) over and over again on Blu-Ray, that's great for you, but it's not what I want to do. I want to pretend I'm in Ghost in the Shell while I play GRAW and GRAW 2 like an obsessed loon, I want to play four hour stints of Halo 3 at one in the morning, I want to pilot a MIG in high speed combat in Ace Combat 6 - I want to be a 1000 year old cursed man in Lost Odyssey - I want GAMES and Microsoft seems to be the only person out there right now who gets that. Sony and Nintendo have taken to offering "diversions" which is fine and dandy, but it's not my thing. I'm not whatever audience is entertained by playing a graphically-enhanced modifiable platformer with my friends, it's not me.
You make some very good points. As of now, thats one of the only things keeping me from switching over to the PS3. This gen I will only be owing one system because of money constraints. For me, I want a system that plays great games and it also a multimedia powerhouse. I love watching high Def movies on my xbox360 HD-DVD drive. It just looks amazing. However, its looking like Blue Ray is going to win out. Furthermore, the PS3 with built in Blue Ray is only 20 bucks more than the xbox360 Elite. It also comes with standard HDMI, blue tooth and other pretty cool featurs. Like I said, I will give it another year to see how things play out.
But if Sony can deliver on some really cool games and on online service thats close to xboxlive, I think I will be switching to the PS3. After some serious thought, I've just come to the conlusion that the PS3 was better thought out and planned for the future needs of gamers as well as multimedia buffs such as myself. Who knows how many more times MS will revampe the xbox360 and release a "new and better" version. Makes me nervous. I'm just starting to lose some confidence in MS and the xbox360. I sure will miss Halo!!!
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