We always got our 4 player rehash of mario bros 1985.

Nintendo doesnt have to make great games anymore if they profit off selling outdated hardware.

making money off games instead of hardware forces developers to make great games.

They could never rehash a franchise like call of duty with a true casual game like wii sports.

the people wouldnt keep the franchise alive like cod.

lol casual games dont have multimillion selling franchises like core games.

there is no market the only market is core gamers that buy games and keep franchises alive.

Not a single casual game sold seperately from a console has sold millions.

So i dont know what the hell people keep talking about when they act like it's a huge market.

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They have to appeal to both to have any chance of getting in first and so far it looks like MS may snatch up both groups.

super600

Than how did the Wii and PS2 win in the gens they released in.

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Their are so many factors that can influence the sales of both of those consoles. It looks like the 720 will attempt to appeal to the core and casuals with avastly improved kinect with a lot of cool features most likely and lots of hardcore and casual games. Sony is attempting to appeal to the core gamers which is not usually a good idea unless they can grab both the core's and casuals.Ninty is still a giant wildcardand sadly most people don;t recognize that. They could potentially take second in the console race if they manage to improve the WiiU's situation. That involves marketing the thing like crazy and properly, improving the WiiU's OS, providing a ton of high quality games and attemptig to court more third parties.   

super600

They have to appeal to both to have any chance of getting in first and so far it looks like MS may snatch up both groups.