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@queuing_for_PS4 PS4 will have a name like "Playstation 4823" to make sure it has a higher number in it than the 360 and the next Xbox. People can get confused and think that if it has a higher number, it's newer and has to be better.

That's one of the reasons Microsoft named it Xbox 360 instead of Xbox 2. True story.

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@ulgk Agreed. People are all entitled to their own opinions, but when it comes to customer service, EA has really great phone support. At least in Sweden - can't speak for other countries.

I've received help within minutes, they're all very nice and when my Battlefield 3 didn't work properly, I received a new, free CD-key because of the trouble (the game started working again for no reason, a patch maybe, so the new CD-key was given away to a friend).

Same when it comes to pre-orders. I cancelled my NFS:MW pre-order over the phone and they didn't even ask why. Turned out that they only removed the pre-order bonuses so I still have the game, but that's beside the point. :P

That being said, I don't agree with all choices they've done when it comes to games and studios. I still don't hate on them all the time, no matter what they do, as a lot of people seem to think is cool.

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@Saint011 @nu1mlock @edussz Who said that a user would get back the same amount..? That's right, no one.

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@edussz @nu1mlock No, it wouldn't. Sure, you would get a game cheaper (real money-wise) but it's no different from purchasing a game on sale.

But sure, if EVERYONE saved their "trade-in-money" for a sale which would be cheaper than they had on their account. Then yes, Steam wouldn't get as much money, the developers would though (as they obviously would take the same cut as usual on a sale).

That has nothing to do with it though. It's legal to re-sell licenses in Europe, Steam doesn't allow you to do so.

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@RealFabioSooner @nu1mlock You're absolutely right, they're not a privileged class (and shouldn't be) in that regard. However, they should ALL gain for PURCHASES of their game/book/movie/car/whatnot. Every single one of them. That's why I purchase my games through Steam/developer and not pirating and giving my money to some random dude that gave me the link to download the game.

It's about time people (not only gamers) encourage developers/manufacturers instead of just using their product without paying them for it.

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@Slash_out "Who will buy a game new when he can get it at half price" -- well, everyone who buys a game day1 or pre-purchase a game instead of waiting for a sale that will most probably happen a month or two later.

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@megakick These kind of "agreements" have never had any legal ground in Europe. If they're breaching a law, they won't hold. And since it's legal to re-sell licenses in Europe -- I'm sure you get the point.

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@edussz I'm sorry, but you're wrong. If you would "trade in" a game back to Steam, they would still have gotten your money and next time you buy a game on Steam (with your in-store credit) they will get even more money. They won't lose a dime. Nor will the developers as people will do the same with "every" game.

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@FAIL_TR0LL That's nothing. You can apparently sue (and win) McDonalds for having hot coffee and burning yourself in America.

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@downloadthefile Of course they differ because of the activation codes, but since it's legal to re-sell a license in Europe, it doesn't matter.

Steam already have the option to remove a game from your Steam library, they could very well implement a system where you not only remove it, but transfer it to another account.