If you play CoD4 without playing any of the other CoD games then you'll think it's a pretty awesome game... quite rightly so; it's a great game in its own right. But when you compare it to the others you realise that, in essence, it's exactly the same...

Then you compare it to games like Crysis... and to be fair, it's a really poor effort on IW's part. There are NO physics (obviously there's some basic stuff, but we saw this in games 3/4 years ago); it's more noob-friendly (marty, last stand and above all it doesn't require alot of skill); the graphics are as near as makes no difference the same as CoD2... they're simply flattered by a more different and diverse environment imo; and the linearity of the SP absolutely kills immersion and creates a mindnumbingly dull experience.

Those are just a handful of problems, there are many more...

[QUOTE="Jrfanfreak88"]Is it me or does 50 sound like a lot? I mean I loved the length of COD4 because it wasn't a daunting task to finish the game in a week, plus the replay value of shorter games is much higher in my opinion. Plus you can focus more on online multiplayer when you aren't dieing to finish a long game, I haven't even touched the multiplayer in GTA IV yet.Arnalion

Ehm COD4 was like a 5-8h game...
That's short.

Yeah... way too short. So much so that I felt hard-done by.

I doubt many people will actually spend 50hours on the campaign; I think he was just alluding to it as a possibility.

Exactly. So now all those tricks that they came across before have been shoved into there faces in the beginning instead of having to find them out. Thats why graphics havent really eveloved that much on consoles this gen.

I dont know why everyone is so impressed with farcry2. Im still waiting to be blown away. STALKER: Clear SKies to me still looks like the game to own(FPS wise) this year for PC gamers. Doesnt mean I wont be picking up farcry2. Im just still yet to be wowed.

Killfox

Yep I agree, FC2's graphics really aren't that impressive and certainly aren't anything we havn't seen before (although consoles might not).

But back on topic, I honestly don't think graphics are going to improve hugely on consoles when devs are struggling to run games like CoD4 at anything like what medium settings look like on PC.

death of yet another great pc franchise.Dune571

How is it the death of another pc franchise? We all know the PC version will be better, so how has it died? Tell me that.

BTW I'm not a Hermit, I play 360 and PC. I just don't see your logic to be fair.

As Clarkson once said: "28p and his fellow rappers might think the dodge viper looks good, but to everyone it's just vulgar."

European and Japanese cars are better looking, more reliable and are built to a higher standard. For example, the Volkswagen Mk4 Golf - a truly beautiful piece of car design; totally timeless, very cool, and cheap! You really wouldn't see anything like that coming out of America.