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#1 ramey70
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[QUOTE="surgestrip"]

[QUOTE="snorlaxmaster"]First off thats called upscalling not native like the PS3 can do. And second, the harware may be able to do that but the DVD-9 does not support that high of a resolution.snorlaxmaster

xbox 360 only scales if it needs to , ps3 only downscales(something trivial to do on modern chipsets,upscale like 360 is more difficult i.e expensive)...if a game is being renedered @1920x1080 going to a true 1080p display no scaling is done, i dont think u guys understand this

if a game is rendered @1280x720 then send to 1920x1080 display xb360 will upscale the game if tell it to (Ps3 cannot do this)

dvd-9 is a disk capacity format not a video codec, i dont think u understand the difference between data type, and a storage format

i can fit (and have)1hr of 1920x1080 video on a dvd-9 disk

You are mistaken about the PS3 not being able to do 1080p. The PS3 is the only system that can do that natively (AKA made in that resolution) the 360 can only upscale games to that resolution which usually has less quality. Plus you are also mistaken that the PS3 can't do upscaling. It can upscale all PS2 Ps1 and DVDs to 1080p resolution (the same as 360) so if anything the PS3 has more abilities than the 360.

The 360 can natively render some games in 1080p, Virtua Tennis 3 is one I know of for sure. I think there are some others as well.

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#2 ramey70
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[QUOTE="cobrax75"]

[QUOTE="daveg1"][QUOTE="snorlaxmaster"]First off thats called upscalling not native like the PS3 can do. And second, the harware may be able to do that but the DVD-9 does not support that high of a resolution.snorlaxmaster

pc games use dvds and go higher than 1080p...

I think I have CD games that can go to native 1080p.

No. If that were true, then there would be no call for BD or HDDVD as a movie format...

It's needed for movies because of their length. 1080p content can be displayed on a CD if you wanted, though it would only be able to hold minutes worth of video/audio instead of hours needed for a movie. In fact, 1080p nature films are available on DVD.

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#3 ramey70
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[QUOTE="DarthaPerkinjan"]

Why would we need to upscale our games to 1080P on our PS3 when they are native 1080P?

What a lemming

The_Crucible

Seriously, get the facts straight before you start a thread. What a joke. "360 is the only one to do 1080p" wha, wha, what????

Not all PS3 games are 1080p native. In fact, some PS3 games are only able to display in 720p (or 1080i in some cases) max. The 360 can upscale all games to 1080p, regardless of native rendering. It's not a big deal for 1080p set owners since 720p games can be upscaled by the TV. It's just better if it's done by the source instead of your TV however.

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#4 ramey70
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to the display for all games and probably all content as well, if u have a display that is a true 1080p one i.e. 1:1 pixel your display will not scale a thing

surgestrip

This is completely and totally false. If it were true no one with a 1080p set would be able to watch a HDTV show on ABC as all of their shows, and sports, are broadcast in 720p. Every 1080p set currently for sale includes an internal upscaler.

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#5 ramey70
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A moment of silence for gaming.

Gotta love Bush. :(

Politics FTL.

Dreams-Visions

I don't believe this "article" for a second.

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#6 ramey70
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[QUOTE="ramey70"][QUOTE="PikaPichu"]

[QUOTE="wolverine4262"]OMG... Would people stop saying Halo3 does 1080p natively... Its scaled... Im saying this now, so us lemmings as a whole dont get owned later...And what does the resolution have to do with how good the game is, seriously?PikaPichu

So it does 1080p like how GT4 did 1080i on the PS2?

Bingo.

Not too shabby imo. The 360 is powerful, but Halo games seem to be really demanding for some reason. Scaled 1080p isn't that bad I guess. Native would be awesome, but I guess they couldn't get it to work so scaled isn't too bad I guess for those of us who own a 1080p HDTV. I'll be running mine at 720p.

I don't mind scaled either. The real benefit of it is that you can match output of the 360 to the native resolution of your set which reduces any chance of lag introduced by scaling or de-interlacing. I have a 1080p set, so the 360 does the upscaling for me and the TV just displays the incoming 1080p image without having to do any processing of the image itself.

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#7 ramey70
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[QUOTE="wolverine4262"]OMG... Would people stop saying Halo3 does 1080p natively... Its scaled... Im saying this now, so us lemmings as a whole dont get owned later...And what does the resolution have to do with how good the game is, seriously?PikaPichu

So it does 1080p like how GT4 did 1080i on the PS2?

Bingo.

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#8 ramey70
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He's of Irish ancestry...that shoudl tell you something.Verge_6

That the covenant could easily defeat by feeding him a steadily supply of Bushmill's whiskey?

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#9 ramey70
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[QUOTE="TOAO_Cyrus1"]

[QUOTE="legol1"][QUOTE="wolverine4262"]OMG... Would people stop saying Halo3 does 1080p natively... Its scaled... Im saying this now, so us lemmings as a whole dont get owned later...And what does the resolution have to do with how good the game is, seriously?Pro_wrestler

sorry im curious what the difference betwen scale 1080p and native 1080p?

With scaled 1080p the GPU renders each frame in 720p and then the scalor chip upconverts it to 1080p. It looks better then 720p but not as good as native 1080p. With native the GPU renders the frame at 1080p which puts more strain on the GPU. Unless your game is on a budget and the graphics can only be so good anyway 720p is better because you can use more pollys, higher res textures, and better effects. All the best looking games this gen will be 720p.

1080p is only better if your Tv's refresh rate is high enough. If not then your TV could do 1080p aswell as your game but the picture quality could be worse than 720p. Thats why 720p is the prime resolution

Where in God's name did you hear that? "refresh rate" has zero to do with 1080p on a TV.

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#10 ramey70
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[QUOTE="doobie1975"]

[QUOTE="legol1"][QUOTE="doobie1975"]this thread is full of guess work and missinformation. 1080p is only relevent if you display is over 50" becouse as the screen gets bigger it needs more pixels. if your not sure about the technoligy and you genuinly want too know about it go to howstuffworks.com or some of the many AV website and learn about it. native means a 1-1 ratio each pixel on the display is given seperate information.legol1

so what you are saying is there almost any difference in the quality and if my tv set is smaler than 50inches i should not notice anything.

exactly, larger image needs more pixels.

thank you for your light and may i ask something else what the difference betwen hdmi cable and composite in the screen because many people are saying hdmi its much better ?

Composite cables are incapable of displaying an HD image, or even a 480p image for that matter. You may be thinking of Component cables, which are red, green, and blue and can display up to 1080p.