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#1 ramey70
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[QUOTE="alfy13"][QUOTE="tcarruth"][QUOTE="XL83"][QUOTE="tcarruth"]

Digitially distributed hi-def movie downloads in less than 10 minutes? HDDVD vs BluRAY is surely irrelevant?

Now you've just got a really expensive redundant drive in the PS3. How long before Sony drops BluRAY given that DD is here, now?

tcarruth

Um, what? How does this affect me again? I didn't buy my PS3 to play movies. I like BD as a storage medium for gaming, at the moment I couldn't care less about which format wins in terms of DVD sales. To top it all off, I own a gaming PC and I always will. Sounds like the best of both worlds to me.

I don't get it, you didn't buy your PS3 to play movies? What did you buy it for? ;) (takes system wars hat off). Seriously though, the comment was just that if you can obtain hi def movies and games over the net, in less time than it takes you to go to the shops, sony have a problem and MS don't. I'm like you though, I don't care all that much since I'm a PC gamer that enjoys some of the benefits of consoles..

i did not understand your post. you are saying digi downloads would only hurt the ps3 but not the 360? that doesnt make any sense at all. last time i remember my 360 uses dvd to play games.

as for hurting HD format sales. i dont see it hurting them at all. hard drives get filled up fast with HD content. so the constumer has 2 options, go buy the hard copy version of the movie, or delete a movie so i can dl the next one if the hard drive is to full to dl.

You need to read about Digital distribution (DD). You can own rights to stream an HD movie from a server whenever you want. Rather than being in the same location as your console (ie in the BluRAY drive) it is down a longer piece of cable sitting on a servers hard drive. It never goes away, is degraded etc. This is already happening in Japan (which is often a good predictor of technology uptake in other countries). The 360 is less hampered by the shift to DD because A) its DVD drive costs about ~$20 instead of $300 of BluRAY which may needlessly add cost to its competitor and B) MS already uses DD.

 

The fact that it's already happening in Japan is a pointless comparison.  Japan is much smaller than the US and people are far more confined to urban centers which don't require a lot of infrastructure.  The US is far more spread out.  Even some of our larger cities such as Los Angeles, Houston, Dallas-Fort Worth, Atlanta, etc. are sprawling cities with massive suburban smaller cities surrounding them.  The geographics of the US don't lend well to digital distribution over a new internet technology.  DSL and Broadband are still lacking in this country.   In addition the move to HD alone is confusing enough for many people, and now you want to convince them that they should also download those movies as well.   That will be a tough sell to stubborn Americans. 

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#2 ramey70
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I really hope that there is no 360 version.smokeydabear076

 

Why?  If this is such a good game wouldn't you want as many people as possible to have access to it? 

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#3 ramey70
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Indeed, I have been saying this for a year now - you can mark my words; BR will do more damage to Sony than the whole Betamax fiasco !

They need only cut the losses now, remove BR from PS3, insert DVD9 and price it at $349.99 and I'm there along with 100 mil. others all saying Mooooo in harmony ;)

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Sony made a profit off of the "Betamax fiasco".  The format was very successful as a professional video format.  In fact, derivatives of the Beta are still in use today. 

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Even if they did spend $500 Million on the film, the last one grossed over $750 Million.  That's a 50% return on investment.  You think that's stupid on Sony's part?
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Will I enjoy it more once it sells 10 Million?  How will this milestone affect my gaming experience?
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#6 ramey70
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[QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="ramey70"][QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="zzzaaa"]

http://www.gameswank.com/?p=378

Their stock rose 45%. Can fanboys shut up about Sony dying now?

gsx1100

it's a spike...

it gets worse...;)

 

How did I know tango would inject his uneducated opinion into this thread.

laying off gaming personnel from sony is a more telling sign of sony's gaming weakness than a spike in the entity's stock...

the ps3 is creating a huge hole for sony... while fighting a multi front war.... and with a new enemy... Apple...

i'm just not as optomistic as you i guess...

but no..i'm not saying sony is dying...just their ps3 side of the house...;)

Geez HD,stillsinging the same old song after all the this time.Remember all those threads you used to make about the Sony debt?

If it was as bad as you where always claiming Sony would have been out of business ages ago,give it up already...time to find a new angle.

 

I find it odd he still refuses to tell us his financial experience and relevant credentials to make such claims. 

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#7 ramey70
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[QUOTE="Zam_basic"]

camera

camera

lens

Sony's about to take profits from Nikon and Cannon's high end DSLR camera market

yeah Sony's hurting real bad

CrazyIvanIV

 

for the love of all things good in this world i would NEVER drop bank on a nice camera by sony..... buh buh buh it plays blue ray.... no its a camera its supposed to take pictures....just like videogame consoles are supposed to play games (and have games to play after 7 months)

 

I would rather go with a Canon Rebel series for a still shot but Sony is where it's at for prosumer video equipment. 

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Sony had 9 billion in cash reserves before the Ps3 endeavour. With the predicted loss of 2.5 billion USD for ps3 to datre first quarter, and much more to come... yuna707

 

Sony's startup costs are mostly expensed in the form of long & short term debt and accounting procedure.  It's not a direct hit of 2.5 Billion to their cash reserves.   

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You cannot compare multi-generation prices without factoring in inflation.  It's lunacy to do so otherwise.  When you adjust for inflation based on the US Department of Labor's Bureau of Statistics you can see the actual prices in today's dollars.

Atari 2600 -  $677
Atari 5200 -  $638
SMS        -   $381
NES (was actually $249 in 1985) - $475
Sega Genesis - $331
NeoGeo - $941
TurboGrafx16 - $331
Atari 7800 - $262
CD-i  - $601
SNES - $300
3DO - $994
Sega Saturn - $537
Playstation - $402
N64 - $260
Sega Dreamcast - $356
Playstation 2 - $356
Gamecube - $230
Xbox - $346
Nintendo Wii - $253
XBox 360 - $419
Playstation 3 - $610

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#10 ramey70
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[QUOTE="ramey70"][QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="ramey70"][QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="zzzaaa"]

http://www.gameswank.com/?p=378

Their stock rose 45%. Can fanboys shut up about Sony dying now?

tango90101

it's a spike...

it gets worse...;)

 

How did I know tango would inject his uneducated opinion into this thread.

laying off gaming personnel from sony is a more telling sign of sony's gaming weakness than a spike in the entity's stock...

the ps3 is creating a huge hole for sony... while fighting a multi front war.... and with a new enemy... Apple...

i'm just not as optomistic as you i guess...

but no..i'm saying sony is dying...just their ps3 side of the house...;)

 

A two year rise is considered a spike? Well color me and my MBA in Finance surprised.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aimb9ADX5vIU&refer=home

let's here your MBA on this...;)

 

It's hear, not here for starters. Secondly, the article mentions a 1.5% fall for SNE stock based on a blanket decline of most Japanese imports due to a US wide consumer spending fall. I'd hardly blame that on corporate performance on the part of SNE.