The 5850 is delayed and 5870 is currently out of stock. Seems like there is a shortage of 5870 in different outlets. Newegg told that there will be about 200 gpus next week which is very low. Seems like Amd having hard time to get those things in the market

Hey do you think that these reviews could be fudged somehow? I mean Nvidia is really desperate to stall and make some money on the GTX 295 until the GT300 series is released. If any of you happen to get a hold of this card could you do some legit benchmarks please? However, i do understand that there is some heavy CPU bottlenecking here cause the 5870 is one fast card and I don't think even the fastest CPU can handle it lol! See if any of you can benchmark it using a dual socket motherboard with two processors (that's the only way I can think of to reduce the bottleneck beyond overclocking).

UltimateGamer95

Whens it avalible to me? (i already made sure i had room on the credit card ) :P

dared3vil0

awww... i cant read that review... and the English Toms hardware doesn't have it up. They probably will tomorrow.

Also, Guru3d will have it up on the 23rd.

Custodian405

in short best buy for a high end card if you dont alrdy have one hd 5850 runs the 295 badly through its paces and the 5870 takes it to class in fact it has time to match an asus mars stride for stride (gtx 285x2). but if you own either there really isnt a reason.. in crossfire however they will swamp anything currently available. the 295's only advantage is that its am multigpu and the 5850 and 5870 are single core gpu's if that werent that case 5870 hands down.

in conclusion if your upgrading from anything BUT an hd 4870x2, gtx 295 or asus mars wait it out a little longer. otherwise if you want an upgrade here is the best pick of the litter.

aura_enchanted

Dude thats not the advantage thats disadvantage. Anything multigpu on pcb is not very much compatible in games. Thats why u will see in some games in 2560 resolution gtx295 crashes and even u will see in some games the minimum fps is even lower than a gtx280 because games arent fully optimized for multigpu purpose still. Thats why people prefer a single powerful card rather than having weaker cards in sli even though that sli beats the single one. And moreover multigpu means more power consumption and more power means more heat and that means ultimately a little overclocking headroom. I think 5870 is a great buy over gtx295 not only because it costs more than $100 less but also because it is very close to 295 and having those advantages of being single card with 40nm taking less power, less heat and having overclocking headroom and ofcourse the new dx11