Post all the 5870 and 5850 review u can find here:

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Those prices are not high if u compare the performance. The leak said that 5870 will have average fps of 43 in 1920resolution with 4x AA and 16x AF in crysis. If these numbers are true that 5870 beats gtx295 which average at 36fps with the same configuration. Even if 5870 doesnt average at 43fps say it is averaging at same level of gtx295 still the price is ok. Look at gtx295 $500 card u r paying for dual card, more heat, less overclocking, not dx11 and so much more. So if u see in reality if 5870 beats 295 or even same or close to 295 still u r paying $100 less for that card with new technology. Dont u think it is rational? Do u want to pay $300 for a card that beats or same or come very close to the top-est card in current generation with newer generation technology? Yes we want to pay as little as we can but if u think rationaly i dont think that the price is that much higher. U have to pay the price premium to grab the latest technology At least they are not charging u $500+ or even $700+ for that card. I bet if nvidia would come out with same card same performance they would charge $600 or more. Think about 8800ultra when it came out it was $700+ with just a little overclock of 8800gtx which was $500+. So what do u expect more? For me the price is very tight. And Ati again maybe going to prove that they are very good when it comes to price/performance ratio.

Original post:http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/269812-33-when-nvidia#t1984576

OK, its been mentioned before, and talked about some, but heres a lil clarification.
Batman AA, which is the newest currently touted TWIMTBP'd game by nVidia, has Physx in it, and theyve just recently locked out anything that isnt nVidia away from using Physx.
Thats exclusivity by exclusion, not just being better.
Now, people have asked, why doesnt ATI just use Physx license and pay the fees etc.
Well, you have to be able to use CUDA first to use Physx, instead of Opencl, so, its even proprietary for just getting to use the license.
Now, wed all like to actually have working, real, make a difference in the game physics in our games, but requiring all this is just too much.
So then we have to ask "why doesnt ATI just do this? Theyve nothing to lose a but license fee, and heres where its simply much more than that.
Batman AA has a code lockout in the game, no not just for Physx, bur the usage of AA, so, if you dont own an nVidia card, you cant use AA.
OK, so, surely it must be that ATI hasnt come to the table for this game, and set the game devs straight as to how to make AA work on their cards you may ask?

Heres the problem. In the code from Batman, youll find this line:

If (System.GPU.IsMadeByNvidia() == false)
GameOptions.AASupport = false;

Now, who do you think wanted this put there? And again, ask yourself, should ATI or Intel in the future have anything to do with nVidias proprietary hoodwinking?
If nVidia ever truly wanted Physx and CUDA to be a universally used set of codes, used thru licensing, it would never do this.
We dont see this being done with Havok, which is owned by Intel, as theyre playing fair.

As for me, Im tired of nVidia and their antics, and I know some people say it shouldnt matter, just get the best card you can, but this is a lawless scenario weve been given by nVidia, and I think its time they pay us back

9800gx2 is not worth for the money.. if u give intel 1 million doller and they give u 100percent faster cpu than quad extreme will u do it? i can c that ur points are always pointless u r no more than just a blind fan...

3870x2 owns everything in that price...consider the heat of 9800gx2 ..

I doubt he will reach 720/2040. That 8600GTS is already OCed out of the box added to the fact its only cooled passively(eventhough it has heatpipes) isn't going to help either.

SSJBen

but i dont see any oc there. the main 8600gts comes with same 675/2000mhz memory. so what do u think how far he can oc it? he was trying to play crysis in 1024res in high med settings.

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the g100 chip... these are the new architechture from nvidia.. coming out by the end of Q2 to compete with the r770 chip of ati..these 9series are just refreshed chip of 8 series just to hold on some moment before they really launch their big dog.. a big marketing strategy but poorly implemented by nvidia :-)

Depends on who you are really. This is by no means a mainstream card, but an enthusiast card. I bet most enthusiasts who buy this card won't buy just one of them, but they will buy two of them for Quad SLI. Nothing will be able to touch a 9800gx2 quad SLI setup except for maybe a 9800gtx Tri-SLI setup. That's going to be an interesting benchmark...TheDuffman26

at this moment they are not supporting quad sli for driver problems. maybe they will after sometime of release.. but these cards are very much a "OVEN" two of them must require someone to fit an AC inside the whole case..and at that price point of $600 it's not really impresive.. 3870x2 can be found in $430 and be close to it and much more cooler.. and think about the crossfire works better than sli :-) so 9800gx2 sli vs 3870x2 crossfire = 3870x2 looses in speed but wins in the true gamer's mind :-)