[QUOTE="ColoradoKindBud"]Um, why would the PS3 not count when it has one of the best DVD players ever put in a console?????KrazyKenKutarag

[QUOTE="reilo"][QUOTE="tricyclon123"][QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="tricyclon123"][QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="tricyclon123"][QUOTE="OXIIIIXO"][QUOTE="tricyclon123"]

I did not see that coming to be frank, but after the HUGE downgrade, they had to say something i suppose

http://forum.teamxbox.com/showthread.php?t=509144

http://playstar.cinebb.com/Dossiers-f4/Rencontre-avec-Christophe-Balestra-de-Naughty-Dog-t210.htm

Ok guys, here is a translation:
The E3 teaser wasn't realtime apparently, but was using the assets and shaders of the game at that time, but the engine wasn't good enough. Today they have it running at 30 fps, and they are very near the trailer quality, about 90% of it (litteraly says it's missing 10%), because the shaders have been downgraded a bit because they aimed too high at first.

It also mentions they are using Nvidia's CG, but also some new library that has not been made available to third party devs yet.

....

That article is 100% legit. Believe it or not it's your problem, but the author is well known here in France, and the event itself happened for sure.tricyclon123

Their engine was not good enough = PS3 weak?

Wait, this is good news, they are 90% near the trailer quality, given how much time they still have left before the release I don't see why they couldn't take it all the way.

Too much damage control in this thread ....

If PS3 was the god like machine they promised, and any of those pics of games was real, now they would not have to excuse themselves, right ?

But fact is not one game on PS3 did not get the downgrade, seems like EVERY DEVELOPER overestimated what PS3 can do, so that is why all first pics - videos of games are 100% fakes

You have NO CLUE man, engines run off HARDWARE, they are not an idea, it is an implementation, they used a super pc for the first pics, but turned PS3 is far far weaker, that is all there is to it

As for the .. 90% figure, they are the devlopers, they would make THE best damage control possible, but fact is that it is more than 40% downgraded, lighting seems nowhere near, shaders too, AA too, how is all that ...10% ???

Where is the logic, when you suggest they had an engine that .... did not run in hardware ?

As for developers .... exclusive on PS3 ones .... suggesting PS3 will be better in 1-2 years, i will just not take their word for anything

Beeing a PS3 developer makes you a bit ... biased, right ?

[QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="tricyclon123"][QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="tricyclon123"][QUOTE="OXIIIIXO"][QUOTE="tricyclon123"]

I did not see that coming to be frank, but after the HUGE downgrade, they had to say something i suppose

http://forum.teamxbox.com/showthread.php?t=509144

http://playstar.cinebb.com/Dossiers-f4/Rencontre-avec-Christophe-Balestra-de-Naughty-Dog-t210.htm

Ok guys, here is a translation:
The E3 teaser wasn't realtime apparently, but was using the assets and shaders of the game at that time, but the engine wasn't good enough. Today they have it running at 30 fps, and they are very near the trailer quality, about 90% of it (litteraly says it's missing 10%), because the shaders have been downgraded a bit because they aimed too high at first.

It also mentions they are using Nvidia's CG, but also some new library that has not been made available to third party devs yet.

....

That article is 100% legit. Believe it or not it's your problem, but the author is well known here in France, and the event itself happened for sure.tricyclon123

Their engine was not good enough = PS3 weak?

Wait, this is good news, they are 90% near the trailer quality, given how much time they still have left before the release I don't see why they couldn't take it all the way.

Too much damage control in this thread ....

If PS3 was the god like machine they promised, and any of those pics of games was real, now they would not have to excuse themselves, right ?

But fact is not one game on PS3 did not get the downgrade, seems like EVERY DEVELOPER overestimated what PS3 can do, so that is why all first pics - videos of games are 100% fakes

You have NO CLUE man, engines run off HARDWARE, they are not an idea, it is an implementation, they used a super pc for the first pics, but turned PS3 is far far weaker, that is all there is to it

As for the .. 90% figure, they are the devlopers, they would make THE best damage control possible, but fact is that it is more than 40% downgraded, lighting seems nowhere near, shaders too, AA too, how is all that ...10% ???

Where is the logic, when you suggest they had an engine that .... did not run in hardware ?

As for developers .... exclusive on PS3 ones .... suggesting PS3 will be better in 1-2 years, i will just not take their word for anything

[QUOTE="reilo"]Current world-wide estimates put it at 1.8mil sold. That is without January NDP numbers. What makes you believe that it could not sell another 200,000 units in a month? Sony sold 150K in January for Japan alone.HeedleGlavin

[QUOTE="Ollivander"][QUOTE="AB_Uppercut"]

DS lite was just a smaller version of the much loved DS

PS slimline was just a smaller version of PS2 but with a built in ethernet port

Both these new consoles were just a better version of the original but I think people are angry on microsoft because the new 360 will have features like HDMI port etc etc which will make games look much better, the people who already bought the 360 feel cheated.

JackBurton28

Nintendo released their remodeled and revamped DS lite only a year after the DS came out, and different colors before that

so then MS releases zephry and EVERYONE is all mad..

now he all mad

ok I typed this topic up so long ago and just forgot to post it

anyway, PS2 slimline too
supermechakirby