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#1 reticulate
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More RAM, then look at your CPU situation.

The video card is pretty good for current stuff.  Check out the 8600 when it's out if you don't want to break the bank on an 8800 variant.
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[QUOTE="jremi"]Before buying a modular power supply at least read this. Just take it for what it's worth and do more research if you find your curious. http://www.pcpower.com/technology/myths/ Specifically the last one.


Yeah, and they're not just trying to advertise their own gear.

"We initially started with a Silverstone 600W SLI certified power supply, but running some games resulted in the system powering down under full load. We next moved onto a higher rated Thermaltake PurePower SLI certified 680W unit. But while most games ran most of the time, the system would still occasionally shut down. Finally, we ended up using PC Power and Cooling's massive TurboCool 850 SSI. This just goes to show that if you really want to build something that pushes the bleeding edge, make sure you have the right power supply."

Seriously. You don't need 800W+ of power to run SLI. That's the myth. Your computer is probably running at less that 200W almost all the time. Only at peak loads during games would you actually need more power. At that rate, anything around 600W will be fine. While I'm all for bigger and better, you have to moderate that with little things like, oh, reality and stuff.

If your computer is shutting down on an SLI rig with a 600W+ power supply, there's something else wrong. Most likely the input voltage from your power socket. How many other things do they have plugged into the one circuit? A big nasty 6-plug power board, perhaps?

"However, problems occur with this design when the load exceeds 50%-60%. Because the 120mm fan consumes about 1.5” of vertical space inside the PSU, heat sinks, capacitors, and other components are about 30% smaller in height compared to a PSU with a rear-mounted fan. The smaller parts can handle less current, so the maximum power available with the 120mm design is limited. And, because the heat sinks have less surface area, more air flow is needed with this design to keep the thermal situation under control. With 80%-100% load, the 120’s fan speed can double and the noise level can jump by up to 20dB."

A 120mm fan produces more airflow at lower speeds (and thus noise) than an 80mm fan at a given voltage. The reduction in physical space is offset by a larger fan. There wouldn't be much point in having one otherwise.

They forgot to mention that.

I have a 120mm-mounted PSU, and it's by far the quietest thing in the box. Especially at high loads.
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#3 reticulate
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[QUOTE="reticulate"][QUOTE="Motokid6"]or better yet...SATA cables.Miguel16

And ASUS just released 18x DVD Burners with SATA.

So now I don't even have to use rounded IDE's for my optical drives!

o they did...where they at...all ive been able to find that arent those ridiculously price plextor drives are liteon



Can't see the ASUS drives at newegg.

They do have the Samsung:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827151141

We've got the ASUS drives here and ready to buy in Australia.  Odd that we should get them before you.

In related news, finally.  I mean, we've had SATA HDD's for years, and we're only now starting to see optical as well.
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You'll need several million dollars worth of equipment to produce the wafers, and then some more millions on packaging.

Oh, and you'll have to hire cheap Chinese labour to put them together.
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#5 reticulate
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Core 2 Duo have the performance lead, but the Athlon X2 owns the budget sector.

It all depends on how much you want to spend.


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#6 reticulate
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or better yet...SATA cables.Motokid6

And ASUS just released 18x DVD Burners with SATA.

So now I don't even have to use rounded IDE's for my optical drives!
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#7 reticulate
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[QUOTE="JeffGenocideX"]Exclusive to X360 & PC. Get over it. Thats the way it is.shungokustasu
Does double posting makes it true?


Forums are playing up, I think.
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#9 reticulate
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[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"]The standards of a PC changes every 6 months. console is every 5-7 years. See the big difference?Vandalvideo
You don't have to upgrade a PC. You can have a standardized PC that runs all new games fine that will conceivablly look better than consoles for that rentire generation if the hardware is innately better.



You are seriosuly trying to say that you can buy a PC that will have a seven year life span (like the PS2) without any upgrades?

New titles would simply not run. And even after only a few years the titles would no longer be optimal for the system.

New titles WILL run. Its called console variations. I could conceivably program a game like Crysis to run on a TI 4 and look similar to other games on that card. Now before you go saying "It takes know how", let me address that by saying there are many automated tweak programs you can actually purchase that scale down the games for you for these systems.


Bad example.  Crysis needs SM3.0 minimum, if I'm not mistaken.

A 4xTi wouldn't have the raw fillrate to do Crysis anyway.
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#10 reticulate
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[QUOTE="reticulate"][QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="reticulate"]Exclusivity is a console concept.

The PC isn't a console.
Jandurin
Sure, but it's as much a gaming machine as any other. If it's the same game, why shouldn't it be considered as multiplatform when also on the PC? Bioshock will be the same, you know, on both.


I'm not denying that. Yes, you play games on PC, and yes, some of the ports will play the same. But that's not the point.

The point is that exclusivity marketing is designed to sell consoles.

It's just marketing. You get good exclusives to get over the other guy, and you sell more consoles. The concept has no meaning on the PC.

We aren't marketing, we're playing the game of System Wars! Not console wars.


Of course, the rules of System Wars do not in any way actually represent reality.

Let's agree to disagree.  This argument could go on pretty much forever.