I'm sorry, but Ubisoft are a very talented developer. Their games like Assasins Creed and Tom Clancy have been outstanding enjoyable experiences. Granted, they haven't quite taken a shine to the Wii, but that's like so many designers. The Wii is fairly limited in terms of design, the controls are very tacky and unresponsive and I think it's a hard console to design for, cause of the limitations. Plus, Ubisoft look towards the future with games like Assasins Creed and Rainbow...and let's face it, it's technically not possible to have those games on the Wii.

The Wii is great if you want to play your old retro games and party games like Mario. It really only seems like Nintendo have an idea of where they're going, albeit, they're going in the wrong direction.

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Well, I'm sorry, but you can't blame the number of games you bought on the system.

it's your fault you didn't bought warioware, re4, super paper mario, zack and wiki, trauma center: second opinion and new blood, medal of honor: heroes 2, Batalion Wars, MLB Power Pros, Madden 08, Mario Strikers: Charged, Umbrella Chronicles, and Ghost Squad (among others).

and BTW, before you go about defend ubisoft just for the sake of it take a look at their wii lineup; even if the wii is relatively underpowered, it's no defense for releasing heeps of crap like Petz and cosmic family. And by the way, as for the wii being underpowered, may I remind you that there were awesome, great-looking games for the gamecube (which i'm sure you haven't played because it's your too busy making a point out of being ignorant,) and say what you will, the wii does have more horsepower.

Not entirely related but I can't believe nintendo let rare be bought by microsoft....

Banjo Tooie was such an amazing game

I'm not sure about Zelda specifically, but generally speaking nintendo's policy is to appeal to a new "casual" audience without alienating their hardcore fanbase, and generally speaking, imho they're doing a pretty good job with it.

The Zelda, Metroid, and Fire Emblem games are as "hardcore" as ever; gamespot (as you probably know) in their usual annoying nature with the wii pretty much said it was too hardcore (despite their nonstop condescening approach to the wii as a "casual" system without real games). They do also make games like wii sports, play and brain age that are for a more casual croud, but it's hard to claim that those "get in the way" in any sense.

However, I think in smg (as in sunshine) they appeal to both - and that you might be underestimating smg (which I understand you haven't played through yet). smg and sunshine are both pretty easy to "beat" - sunshine, while sometimes frustrating, was pretty much a breeze. However, the real challange is getting all the stars (or shines) - that's what makes the game hard. So the beauty about these games (even though I didn't particularly love Sunshine) is that they're as hard as you want them to be - therefore appealing to both crouds (and as a sidenote - I hate the new "casual gamers" term - you can be both "serious" about gaming and enjoy playing wii sports or mario party).

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[QUOTE="Nick11478"]I had a launch Wii. I was thinking that EA would come out with some amazing NHL 08 game, but they just flat out didn't even try. Nintendo needs to make a regular controller for the Wii so that 3rd party companies can make GOOD games for the system. I recently sold my Wii to buy a 360, and the 360 version of NHL 08 is so much fun.Nick11478

They managed Madden effectively with the controls, so I doubt that the controls are what's holding them back.

Also, they have a bloody regular controller. It's called the classic. However it's an accessory controller, and as such is unlikely to ever receive more than optional support from developers.

Dude seriously... You honestly think they are going to produce a fantastic game with the classic controller. I don't know what developer would want to use it.

I agree with you that developers wouldn't (don't) use the classic controller too extensively; but that's just because most people don't have it and the wiimote + nunchuck are perfectly fine for almost every "standard" game (and not using any motion functionality kinda beats the point of making it a wii game). However, considering you're the one who asked for a regular controller, I don't get your point... that's exactly what it is, and a pretty good one at that. (Though btw - MLB Power Pro's is apparently a great game and better played with the classic controller or gamecube controller, which it supports.)

And to the first poster - I have a wii and love it. However, If you want a system for EA's sports games - you'd better look elsewhere, considering EA complete lack of willingness to bring their wii games to even PS2 level, let alone try to do anything innovative.

Thanks for replying! However, since my problem with buying a PS2 is money, the 360 only makes it worse... and since the original XBox was discontinued along with it's peripherals, I think it'll be more convinient to stick with the PS2 (which also has Burnout, Midnight club, and Need For Speed).

My brother decided he wants to buy a steering wheel to go with a racing game, and since I'm more into gaming he has set me with the task of giving him the shopping list. Should I recommend him to buy a PS2 just for that? I've done my homework and reached the conclusion that the Driving Force Pro is the wheel to get (and it works with both PC and PS). Buying a PS2 obviously costs more, but from what I could find the PlayStation 2 has much better racing games; GT4, Burnout 3, Midnight Club etc. as opposed to GTR 2, Race 07 and DiRT. Now, it may just be me, but the playstation games just look cooler; the PC ones are more meh-ish. What's your take on this? Did I miss any other good PC racing games?

(PS - I tried to ask already, but does anybody know if it's possible to connect two steering wheels to the same PS2 for split-screen multiplayer?)

Thanks!