No, I wasn't doing heavy overclocking. In fact, at one point they told me to underclock to get the ram working properly. They are just unstable chipsetsMunkyman587

Never compare a EVGA MB with an ASUS MB,and they would only tell you that if your ram was being undervolted and considering most MB don't volt past 1.8 from the factory and your Crucial Ballistix PC2-8000, requires 2.2v or just wasn't compatible doesn't mean you should generalize the ASUS into your experience of unstable chipsets,and if you look around at all the OC that has been achived with this MB there are videos on youtube showing what it can do,there's even a pencil mod that takes 5 seconds and almost no effort to eliminate vdrop.Just so you know EVGA doesn't make or design there own MB that's why they look like XFX MB.

ok, i can vouche for it benefitting, i oc my cpu to 4.0, and it helps a lot, but you have to have gpu's that are so powerful for it to be noticeable, and i do, so it is, technically it still isnt necesary though, cuz i dont get close 60fps ( not that low) except in crysis. i'll run some tests and replywolfdogelite

Thank you I would like to see them.

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[QUOTE="kemar7856"]it does matter overall in overall computing Swiftstrike5

I would like to see you prove this because 99% of these benchmarks prove you wrong.

The link works fine for me but if you can see the page and cant figure it out then you are in the wrong thread.

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FSB and CPU clock speed are directly related. A lot of people do turn down the multiplier on the CPU to increase FSB speed, but there's hardily any performance difference by increasing the FSB and I'm pretty sure the stress (on the CPU) is the same, if not more. Besides, the FSB speed is entirely limited to how fast your memory is, which is why there's no performance increase when you simply UP the FSB without overclocking your memory to the proper speed as well.

This is a GREAT guidesince Intel's motherboards haven't changed in quite awhile (DDR3 is different though, but it just as a 4x multiplier instead of a 2x, I believe). It DOESN'T apply to AMD motherboards though.

Swiftstrike5

The point of this thread is to show that a high cpu clock can be brought down without changing the FSB and see no performance lost and other things are more important like FSB, GPU,RAM and that each system has it's own sweet spot. Taking A 3.4, 3.6, 4.0 down by only using the multiplier will not have the same stress. So why keep a high CPU multiplier and FSB when you can lower it and remove that extra stress without seeing any performance lost?

There's no need to worry people new to overclocking about CPU stress because of a stock multiplier.

Are you comprehending any of this at all. 1st increasing the FSB will automatically increase the speed of the CPU ,RAM ,NB and SB so why do you say"but there's hardly any performance difference by increasing the FSB" then why OC at all . Then you say "I'm pretty sure the stress (on the CPU) is the same, if not more" I guess you didn't bother reading the 5th post because you can also lower the vcore with a lower CPU multiplier.then you say "the FSB speed is entirely limited to how fast your memory is, which is why there's no performance increase when you simply UP the FSB without overclocking your memory to the proper speed as well". The RAM will increase with the FSB automatically unless you unlink it or use the divider which is what you should do to get your best performance and timings and do I actually have to say this considering that's what OC does and in a thread directed to those already overclocking.

Then theirs your last statement which clearly shows that you arnt getting it at all and I suggest you actually read this thread because people are sacrificing there systems performance believing that a higher clock is the way to go. How hard is it to understand my first post which was directed to those pushing past 3.0GHz and up to 3.6 and 4.0 this is in my first post." now go into the BIOS and lower the CPU multi only and increase the FSB so that you are around 3GHz and redo the test". Can you comprehend that because all your posts have proven otherwise and those of you you @ 3.6 or 4.0 don't have to increase the FSB to hit close to 3GHz when you take down the multiplier.Why not take down the CPU multiplier and vcore and remove that stress.

This thread is not directed to new beginner's and that should have Been clear by simply reading and comprehending the first post but that doesn't mean that they cant learn from it.

FSB and CPU clock speed are directly related. A lot of people do turn down the multiplier on the CPU to increase FSB speed, but there's hardily any performance difference by increasing the FSB and I'm pretty sure the stress (on the CPU) is the same, if not more. Besides, the FSB speed is entirely limited to how fast your memory is, which is why there's no performance increase when you simply UP the FSB without overclocking your memory to the proper speed as well.

This is a GREAT guidesince Intel's motherboards haven't changed in quite awhile (DDR3 is different though, but it just as a 4x multiplier instead of a 2x, I believe). It DOESN'T apply to AMD motherboards though.

Swiftstrike5

The point of this thread is to show that a high cpu clock can be brought down without changing the FSB and see no performance lost and other things are more important like FSB, GPU,RAM and that each system has it's own sweet spot. Taking A 3.4, 3.6, 4.0 down by only using the multiplier will not have the same stress. So why keep a high CPU multiplier and FSB when you can lower it and remove that extra stress without seeing any performance lost?

E8500 or the Yorkfield Quadcores (the Q9x00 ones), they're bound to come down in price now that the Core i7's and Phenom II X4's are out. The Q6600 is old news when it comes to Quadcores. Currently in most games, the E8500 destroys the Q6600 except for a couple games. Look up some benchmarks, there are a ton of them out.EXLINK

These benchmarks are misleading they will perform the same at the same FSB and the Q6600 will destroy it with anything that uses 4 threads and at the same FSB, no question Q6600 is the best option and for the same price.

So that means that it's usless to push my E8400 over 3600 mhz?yetiHUNTER001

That's for you to decide so take the test and find out. This thread is more about finding the sweet spot with ones own MB,CPU,GPU,RAM, and not assuming that a CPU @ 3.6 or 4.0 is going to out perform one @ 3.0 with a high FSB.