[QUOTE="seercirra"]my cpu is perfectly stable, it doesnt get too hot. if anything were to die within the guarantee period then i would have it replaced. the possibility of it dying after 2 or 3 years is pretty irrelevant because i'd normally be upgraded by then. the fatality has more robust cooling, for gaining very little extra performance by being able to overclock 2-3% more. the OP doesnt seem interested in overclocking and needless to say the gigabyte would perform very well even if he were. for everything else the gigabyte is better. its newer, it has a better chipset, has onboard graphics just incase, costs less and supports crossfire.ravenguard90

I wasn't asking about your CPU temps... I'm talking about your VRM temps. CPU cooling you can easily fix yourself. VRM cooling, on the other hand, isn't as easy.

As for your supposed security within the guarantee period, are you telling me that you wouldn't mind having your computer out of commission every time a component goes kaput? Going through the hassle of submitting an RMA, proving to the company rep it wasn't your fault, and then waiting a week or two to get the replacement product seems to be a situation I'd gladly pay more to avoid. Moreover, the shipping costs to send the motherboard over would probably bring the cumulative cost of the motherboard to somewhere similar to that of getting a decent motherboard.

Obviously, the desired features in a motherboard are drastically different between the two of us. I'll leave it to the TC to decide on which features he/she deems to be important.

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well its a shame you stopped reading there because the point is that hes throwing money away on the fatality board, just falling for advertising. the gigabyte board is better.

ravenguard90

I'll agree with your point on the Fatality board being unnecessarily expensive, and the Gigabyte board is better if you are planning on setting up a dual-GPU rig.

However, the Fatality does make up for that deficiency with a solid VRM design, plenty of cooling headroom for them (unlike the Gigabyte), and (imo) comes with a much more palatable colour scheme.

You may be able to get that 2500k to 4.6ghz just fine, but have you looked at how stable your voltages are when stressing the CPU? Have you checked how hot the VRM's are getting when running the extra voltage to the CPU? And, most importantly, how do you know the VRM's on that board will last as long as a much more robust VRM design that has proper cooling?

The DS3 may have the ability to overclock to decent speeds, and it may also have Crossfire capability. But for someone (not saying the TC in particular) who just wants a single-GPU setup and a really solid overclock, I doubt the DS3 is a better board than the Fatality.

well its a shame you stopped reading there because the point is that hes throwing money away on the fatality board, just falling for advertising. the gigabyte board is better. the reason they put (O.C) next to 2133 in the jargon is because reliability cant be guaranteed at that speed, for that mobo. newer boards dont have to do that. the fatality is old, and just treading water now because it was really good years ago.

its very overpriced for what it is. commission me $100 dollars and ill make you one, much better than that for $700.

^^ ^^ I think I like asrock fatality:

ASRock Fatal1ty P67 Performance LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157253

Good choice? A little over my price, but not too much :)

ydnarrewop

i have the giga z68p ds3, which is very similar, and its fine. im running a 2500k at 4.6 with no problems

Yes...i have 2x 4 GB of Ram. Also, I can't get a better power supply 'cause of my limited budget. Maybe in the future...when I get more money.

homeboylizard

you need some IBM seeds, water, good potting soil and lots of light. then ofc you need to feed it well and care for it. then maybe, MAYBE if you did a good enough job you will have a top of the line pc next year sometime around late spring.. but if you did bad you might get a mac.

its not fine. your pissing money away on a motherboard when something costing £60 would do exactly the same job that you need it for. you should save $70 on your mobo, go for something like a gigabyte z68p-ud3 or, from the same site the asrock z68m and spend that $70 on a small ssd or a better graphics card

also you are cutting it fine with your psu. no one could say for sure that 500w will be enough to power your pc. if your going to spend $100 on a case and psu, i would spend 40 on the case and 60 on the psu, getting a 650w instead. coolermaster are a good brand for cooling, but their psu's arent very good. you might be able to rely on a corsair 500w but not a coolermaster.

so, fans come on? motherboard light is on? can you hear your harddrive working, as though its loading windows?