[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

[QUOTE="PC360Wii"] Gears 3 beta was a demo... this BF3 beta is an old build designed for server testing... since you know, BC2 had population problems to a large extent on release, they didnt prepare for it enough.... not to mention gears of war is a VERY simplistic game in comparison... its nowhere near as versitile, demanding or large scale. It does play like battlefield... though faster, the gunplay is excellent .... t he glitchs are a pain the the ass.... but thats temporary. Console gamers dont know what beta's are... do they? your so use to finished games touted as betas.PC360Wii

*laughs hard* gears of war 3 is VERY simplistic in comparison... *laughs* but yes Please a very old build where the map has so many obvious geometry issues they couldn't ever be fixed in less then 4 weeks and thats just geometry issues...Its obvious bf3 beta is just a demo they threw together if you want to test even server issues you usea far more stable buildwhich have your most efficient coding you don't test old builds that are plagued with crashes, and such bad geometry issues entire games will be long drawn out casue people will end up quiting cause they cant get out of the ground.

Played 4 hours now... havnt falled through the floor once.

]You're obviously lying. This bug exists even on the PC version.

[QUOTE="shahilsyed"][QUOTE="XVision84"]

It's actually true since instead of releasing patches to modify weapons; they create all new games that fix the problems the past games had. They easily could've fixed the camping in MW2 by changing around the damage in some weapons, but instead they abandon it after release and move on to overpriced DLC or a new game. At least Treyarch modified their weapons a bit, but they didn't do much since nerfing snipers doesn't fix anything.

XVision84

Battlefield 3 feels exactly like past Battlefield games? Have you even played the beta? because it feels nothing like Bad Company 2. Also, do you really believe that you're going to get 16 maps in MW3? I'm sure it'll be around 10 and many of them will be sold for DLC. Also, Operation Metro (one of the smallest maps in BF3) is equial to about 3-4 CoD maps, and Caspian Border is equal to 6-7 CoD maps. You can't compare a game with miniature maps and arcadey gameplay to a large-scale vehicle focused warfare game. Battlefield 3 also adds in co-op which is something that hasn't been in the series before, I think that's a lot more of an improvement than an improved spec-ops mode. Battlefield 3 also has new weapons (in fact, BF3 has a lot more new weapons than MW3. There are a lot of weapons that are brought back such as the ACR 6.8, AK47, and SCAR-L in MW3), new attachments (more so than MW3 since MW3 doesn't have tactical flashlight, as many scopes as BF3, Bipod, Target pointer, Flechette rounds, smoke launchers, etc. etc.), and new features (again, more so than MW3 since BF3 has the platoon system, Battlelog, prone, and tactical gameplay). Not only that, but BF3 also sports a new UI, much improved animation, improved graphics, etc. Yeah, I think I just destroyed this argument ;). MW3 maps are also static, it's one set environment while in BF3 you go from an outside park to a subway and then into a city. MW3 is leagues behind BF3 :D

Klusps, You're not fooling anybody. So what's in the beta that wont exist in retail game? Also, lol I've played Caspian Border and its awful. Its a complete snipefest.

the beta is driving me nuts, everyone just snipes...ugh

munchlax99

Don't listen to whoever is claiming that BF3 on ps3/xbox 360 are looking bad, because it's just elitism bullcrap. I've played on both consoles, and it's looking great (a little better on the ps3) and better than any other modern fps on consoles. If people are stupid enough to believe that developers must match modern PC quality on 6 year old hardware, well, there's nothing to say.

26whitewolf

[QUOTE="shahilsyed"]It's a beta, of one Rush map. And you're judging the entire final game based on it.

McStrongfast

[QUOTE="shahilsyed"]No, I'm not joking. BF3 DOES not feel like a battlefield game. As I said buddy, those old battlefield days you had with 1942 and BF2 are over. Bf3 is a game, feels too like MOH and COD. BF3 does infact cater to casuals. Just look at the snipers on BF3, when I get a kill, it feels so un-earned because BF3 hardly requires any skill or bullet drop. McStrongfast

[QUOTE="shahilsyed"][QUOTE="XVision84"]

Okay, I give up, you two are hopeless. It seems you're ignoring what everyone is telling you, so there's no point trying to correct you any longer. Just go play CoD (and lol at DICE making BF3 to cater to casuals).

XVision84

They're making big gameplay changes that IMO are for the better, of course there are going to be people that don't like it. When you make a sequel; you try new things, they're taking what they learned from MoH and implementing it into BF3. That's what a great developer does (not just rehashing the same formula from past Battlefield games). Battlefield 3 takes lots of skill to perform well in combat, master your class, control recoil, and work in a team effectively. There is no bullet drop because Operation Metro isn't exactly a huge map, and the bullet doesn't drop when there's an enemy 15 feet in front of you. In the BC2 beta, the bullet dropped when you were on one side of the map, and the other person was much farther away. Like I said, you believe strongly in your hate against BF3, so no matter what I say; you're going to disagree with me and say BF3 caters to casuals or is awful.

[QUOTE="shahilsyed"][QUOTE="metalguitar13"]

It would broken, glitchy and laggy on the first few days like many other major betas are at times so why does everyone hate on the Battlefield 3 beta?

ultramega9

[QUOTE="shahilsyed"][QUOTE="Zero_epyon"]

MW3 has been in beta for two years now with MW2. :twisted:

But seriously, since their don't change very much there's pretty much no real need for an open beta. Except for stress testing but really, it's P2P for the most part.

XVision84

It's actually true since instead of releasing patches to modify weapons; they create all new games that fix the problems the past games had. They easily could've fixed the camping in MW2 by changing around the damage in some weapons, but instead they abandon it after release and move on to overpriced DLC or a new game. At least Treyarch modified their weapons a bit, but they didn't do much since nerfing snipers doesn't fix anything.

I like both CoD and Battlefield games and the BF3 beta is just awful and instead of 100% getting the game now i'm like 50-50

Dawq902