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#1 shawty1984
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Exactly, but the distance must be within the human limits of vision or 1080p/720p are indistinguishable. The reason I say monitors are a different story is that normally you sit much closer to a monitor than a TV and as such the higher resolutions were available in smaller monitors before they ever became available on bigger TV's.rastan


And for 22", they are.

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#2 shawty1984
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[QUOTE="Solid_Link22"]

[QUOTE="Couth_"]The difference is the refresh rate. The Bravia is 120Hz (twice as much as the Samsung) which means the colors change twice as fast, to make for a sharper, more clean image. 120Hz is one of the newer features on TVs, and it'd better to watch Blu Rays inTheSystemLord1

oh sweet. I was curious becaue I wanted to upgrade from my Samsung 32"720p TV. I was saving the money to buy a bulldog puppy but those puppies cost more than the hospital bill when I was born.Another thing there is a Sony TV that is 32" 1080p with the refresh rate of 120hz but I heard from people that 1080p is not worth it with anything under 40". Is that valid?

Technically you can't see the difference in 1080p until you get into the 52" range.



Technically, no, let me rephrase that. 100%, you dont have a clue what you are talking about.

1080p is 1080p which is 1920 x 1080 and will always be 1920 x 1080. This doesnt change due to screen size. 1080p at 22" will look the same as 1080p at 52" if both are viewed at the correct distance. Its the same resolution, screen size itself has nothing to do with it. Its the viewing distance in relation to screen size.

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#3 shawty1984
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Up until recently very few TV's under 40" were 1080p. Monitors are a different story. Size does have a lot to do with it in that the human eye needs to be within a certain distance for a set size TV to be able to distinguish the difference between 720p and 1080p. Monitors have had it on smaller screens longer as usually you sit very close to a computer monitor so the difference is noticeable in the larger screens available today (That still doesn't mean you necessarily want a 12" 1080p screen as that would make for some very tiny details that would be hard to see). For a 32" set, you would have to sit closer than 4' from it to see the difference between 720p and 1080p. Here's a reference chart http://s3.carltonbale.com/resolution_chart.htmlrastan


Monitors are not a different story. A resolution is a resolution, regardless if its a TV or Monitor. 1080p is 1080p and 1920 x 1080 is 1920 x 1080. This doesnt change be it a Monitor or TV, nor does it change for TV size.

What I meant is size has nothing to do with it by itself. People say 1080p is pointless under 32" which is utter tosh. Size itself has nothing to do with 1080p Its size relevant to viewing distance. 1080p will look the same at 22" as it will at 60" if both are viewed from the correct distance.

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#4 shawty1984
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[QUOTE="Epak_"]

Okay so the thing is that I bought this 32" Philips TV (Philips PFL5404h 12). I was told at the store that it's HD-ready (only capable of 720p output? The product info says that it has a 1366x768p HD LCD screen). Now the PS3 and the 360 put 1080p as the default resolution. I can also choose 1080p through VGA from my PC. I'm wondering what's up? The TV's info screen also states 'HD 1080p' as the resolution (I'm running Jet Li's Fearless Blu-ray atm) and the internal manual says that it indeed has a Full-HD screen.

My sister has a 32" HD-ready Samsung and 720p is the highest resolution it can output. Can anyone enlighten me with this issue? Does it just downscale the picture or what?

monson21502

you sure its 32` not 42` not sure if philips even makes 32` 1080 p tvs. only sony and samsung get away with dooping people to buy 1080 p tvs of that size with their brand names. plug in the hdmi in ur ps3 and go to display settings. have the ps3 auto detect. if it comes up 1080 p after you do that. then ur tv is 1080 p. if your tv was 720 p it wouldnt show up as 1080 p....



You obviously dont know what your talking about.

You can get 22" 1080p monitors. Size really has nothing to do with it.

1080p is 1080p which is 1920 x 1080 and will always be 1920 x 1080. This does not change due to screen size,

1080p at 22" will look exactly the same as 1080p at 60 if both are viewed at the correct distance. Its the viewing distance that matters, not the size of the TV/Monitor.

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Call of Duty 4 is 1080pagent_029


As far as Im aware, wasnt it found out COD4 was upsacaled 1080p and not native 1080p just like Halo 3.
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#6 shawty1984
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[QUOTE="shawty1984"][QUOTE="mbrockway"][QUOTE="JesterX738"]

[QUOTE="shawty1984"][QUOTE="mbrockway"][QUOTE="shawty1984"][QUOTE="game_boy286"]Hey im just curious about somethin dose a PC moniter have a res of 1080P or even higher?mbrockway

That, Im not sure off. But we are talking about TV's anyway.

My laptop has a 1920x1200 display. I love it and its 7950gtx so much. Also, my tv seems to do the same thing fs_metal's does. It has a native res of 1680x1050. It can take 1080p inputs and display them, even says 1080p in the upper right corner when the game chooses that mode or I force it. Since my tv has more pixels than a 720p screen, it makes sense to use them. Mine's a 24" Element LCD I got for $350 at a Circuit City.



You must be mistaken somewhere. There is no 1080p TV smaller than 32" that will input and output 1080p, thus been called a full HD set. 32" is the smallest one.

I can get 1080 on my 17" CRT Monitor from my PS3 with a Signal Transcoder that converts Component to a VGA (15pin HD DSUB).

I said the resolution of the tv. 1680x1050. Of course its not 1080p, its a 1050p set. It does accept and display 1080p content, though obviously its scaled to fit the screen. I'm saying his tv can accept 1080p inputs like mine and scale them.



So your TV is not a 1080p TV as it does not output 1080p. Thats what the whole arguement is about.

... For some reason that sentence kind of makes me hate you. I SAID ITS NOT A 1080P SET. Neither is FS's. IT CAN ACCEPT 1080P INPUTS. What are you not understanding here?



Because we are talking about 1080p TV's. If your TV is not a 1080p TV then you are not viewing a 1080p image, end off. Thats what the whole argument was about. Someone said they had a TV that was 19" and would display 1080p which it doesnt. The smallest TV to display 1080p is 32"
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#7 shawty1984
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[QUOTE="JesterX738"]

[QUOTE="shawty1984"][QUOTE="mbrockway"][QUOTE="shawty1984"][QUOTE="game_boy286"]Hey im just curious about somethin dose a PC moniter have a res of 1080P or even higher?mbrockway

That, Im not sure off. But we are talking about TV's anyway.

My laptop has a 1920x1200 display. I love it and its 7950gtx so much. Also, my tv seems to do the same thing fs_metal's does. It has a native res of 1680x1050. It can take 1080p inputs and display them, even says 1080p in the upper right corner when the game chooses that mode or I force it. Since my tv has more pixels than a 720p screen, it makes sense to use them. Mine's a 24" Element LCD I got for $350 at a Circuit City.



You must be mistaken somewhere. There is no 1080p TV smaller than 32" that will input and output 1080p, thus been called a full HD set. 32" is the smallest one.

I can get 1080 on my 17" CRT Monitor from my PS3 with a Signal Transcoder that converts Component to a VGA (15pin HD DSUB).

I said the resolution of the tv. 1680x1050. Of course its not 1080p, its a 1050p set. It does accept and display 1080p content, though obviously its scaled to fit the screen. I'm saying his tv can accept 1080p inputs like mine and scale them.



So your TV is not a 1080p TV as it does not output 1080p. Thats what the whole arguement is about.
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#8 shawty1984
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[QUOTE="shawty1984"][QUOTE="mbrockway"][QUOTE="shawty1984"][QUOTE="game_boy286"]Hey im just curious about somethin dose a PC moniter have a res of 1080P or even higher?JesterX738

That, Im not sure off. But we are talking about TV's anyway.

My laptop has a 1920x1200 display. I love it and its 7950gtx so much. Also, my tv seems to do the same thing fs_metal's does. It has a native res of 1680x1050. It can take 1080p inputs and display them, even says 1080p in the upper right corner when the game chooses that mode or I force it. Since my tv has more pixels than a 720p screen, it makes sense to use them. Mine's a 24" Element LCD I got for $350 at a Circuit City.



You must be mistaken somewhere. There is no 1080p TV smaller than 32" that will input and output 1080p, thus been called a full HD set. 32" is the smallest one.

I can get 1080 on my 17" CRT Monitor from my PS3 with a Signal Transcoder that converts Component to a VGA (15pin HD DSUB).



We are talking about TV's, not monitors.
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[QUOTE="shawty1984"][QUOTE="game_boy286"]Hey im just curious about somethin dose a PC moniter have a res of 1080P or even higher?mbrockway
That, Im not sure off. But we are talking about TV's anyway.

My laptop has a 1920x1200 display. I love it and its 7950gtx so much. Also, my tv seems to do the same thing fs_metal's does. It has a native res of 1680x1050. It can take 1080p inputs and display them, even says 1080p in the upper right corner when the game chooses that mode or I force it. Since my tv has more pixels than a 720p screen, it makes sense to use them. Mine's a 24" Element LCD I got for $350 at a Circuit City.



You must be mistaken somewhere. There is no 1080p TV smaller than 32" that will input and output 1080p, thus been called a full HD set. 32" is the smallest one.
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#10 shawty1984
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[QUOTE="fs_metal"][QUOTE="Liquid-Prince"][QUOTE="shawty1984"][QUOTE="Liquid-Prince"][QUOTE="game_boy286"]

Although that may be true, the same devolopers are putting games on 360 1080P but only 720P on PS3? whats with that, can you explane that (some examples are the orange box GRAW 2)

Liquid-Prince

I hope you know that the 360 doesn't output true 1080P but only upscales the image of a 720P source. It's in most cases almost physically impossible to have a 1080P game on a regular DVD.



The Xbox 360 CAN output 1080p NATIVELY.



No, the HD DVD drive is needed to play HD DVD's, forget about the HD DVD drive as this is for movies only and not games. The Xbox 360 CAN and as far as Im aware DOES 1080p natively.

I'm not trying to bash 360, but from what I have heard, the system cannot play 1080P nativley and has a scaler that scales games from 720P up. Although to scale you need HDMI thus the Elite was born.

It can output in 1080p natively, but the DVD format is too limiting to do it natively, thus the system takes the 1080p res and upscales it to 1080. If yopu were to get an HD DVD player, you would have no problem running any HD DVD natively at 1080

It needs the HDDVD drive to do that however, which is exactly what I meant. It needs to upscale 720P, but if it had a HDDVD drive it can play 1080P movies.