sixringz,

Please define "talent".

By the way. Houston and T-mac ain't messing around right now. Maybe they will escape the 1st round.

mont13

No prob. In my opinion -

Talent is the amount of ability you have and what you are capable of achieving (something like potential but not quite)

My point was that i think Lebron and Kobe are neck and neck in terms of how good of a player they are RIGHT NOW. I would give the SLIGHT edge to Kobe, but only by a very small margin. However, I believe Lebron has far more room to improve than Kobe. I think Kobe has peaked. He's as good now as he ever will be, while Lebron is very good now, but there is tons of room for him to get better. That's all i meant with talent. His pyhsical gifts are unparalleled

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2. Jordan = best player ever. PERIOD. Kobe is as skilled overall as michael. And Lebron is more talented then both of them. Try to figure that out.

Lord_Pro

KOBE >>>>>>>>>>> Lebron

KOBE is best on ball defender in the NBA he All Team Defensive First Team Lebron isn't
KOBE way better range and plays against west more against the best defenders are in the WEST its just few teams in the EAST play defensive Lebron.

KOBE 3x NBA championship 4x West Confedence Championship 4 finals appearances

KOBE 2x scoring champion

there is a difference between talent and being a great player. Kobe has reached his peak, he will not get any better than he is right now (which is pretty damn good). My argument is that Lebron has more TALENT than Michael or Kobe, it's just a question of whether or not he will ever reach his full potential in terms of that talent. He's definitely on his way. My point is Lebron has a long way to go before he peaks, Kobe can't improve his game much more. And the fact that these 2 players are being compared to each other in the first place just furthers my point. I am 26 years old, and was an avid Jordan fan through his career. I watched him at his best, the same way i have watched Kobe. Kobe right now is the better PLAYER in the NBA, but Lebron has more TALENT. If he reaches his full potential he will be the best EVER. It's just a matter of IF.

2. Jordan = best player ever. PERIOD. Kobe is as skilled overall as michael. And Lebron is more talented then both of them. Try to figure that out.

Alot of people wait for game reviews like myself but when the reviews come in and they are not like they had hoped that site looses some credibility to that person. Im not saying all people who wait on reviews do this just the many I see in these forums. Like for example the army of two reviews some sites did not give it a very high score, here go people who have yet to even play the game criticising the reviewers. Its just something I noticed.Bigfred19882000

The only thing i've noticed is with this site in relation to the Playstation. Let me say i own a 360 and a PS3 so i'm not some salty fanboy on here like other people. I'm very objective and don't care about who thinks which system is better, but of late there is something really fishy going on with this site in relation to sony. After the Ratchet and Clank review people got scepticle, but i wasn't buying it. THen the Uncharted review came in a lot lower than other sites and i started watching a little closer. Now the God of War review is once again lower on this site than all others. After hearing some of the other stories about former reviewers and their reasons for getting fired, combining that with the reviews on this site, i'm officially convinced this site is anti sony. This site lost all respect from me when it comes to playstation games. No one site should ever be the be all end all of a review, you should always go to a site like gamerankings that gives you an average of a wide variety of reviews, but it is just always funny how when it comes to playstation products this site is always given the lowest score. Kind of weird huh?

[QUOTE="sixringz1"]won't work. New York only cares about one thing and that's the playoffs and world series. If they pick him up he will be a 150 million dollar regular season ace who folds in the postseason like he did this year in all his starts as well as when he was in the playoffs before. He's not clutch. He may look good on paper but that will be a bust for the yanks. It will be the pitching version of Giambi all over againDA_B0MB

Sabathia admitted his dexterity in the playoffs last season was not as good as he expected. It was the first time he went to the playoffs as a #1 starter. You really should never judge a player in the playoffs on one post season though. Derek Jeter in the 2007 ALDS was terrible, but who thinks of him as a terrible post season player? No one. Same thing with Wang.

Derek Jeter batted 333 in the ALDS in 97, which was a year after he batted 412 in the ALDS, .417 in the ALCS, and 250 in the World Series in 96 for a cumulative average of .360 for the entire playoffs. His FIRST playoff appearance in only his SECOND full year. He earned his stripes from the start. Last year was Sabathia's 7th year in the league. He should have been better prepared for the situation. If you are a big time pitcher and been around long enough you shouldn't get HAMMERED in 3 consecutive playoffs starts. Everybody has a bad game or even a series. But the rest of the Indians picked him up in the Yankees series. He had a chance to redeem himself against the sox and he pitched even worse. He was arguably the primary reason they lost that series. Your "Ace" can't lose 2 games in a playoff series and expect to win the series, it just won't happen.

And for your statement of him being in the playoffs as the #1, that just speaks to my point. You need more from someone of his ability. You can't be dominate in the regular season and just stink it up in the playoffs. That's the definition of not clutch. For all the yankee fans out there more power to you and i hope it works out, but in my opinion you either have what it takes or you don't. Every now and then there may be an exception (Bonds), i just don't think sabathia is one of them. We'll see

[QUOTE="sixringz1"]won't work. New York only cares about one thing and that's the playoffs and world series. If they pick him up he will be a 150 million dollar regular season ace who folds in the postseason like he did this year in all his starts as well as when he was in the playoffs before. He's not clutch. He may look good on paper but that will be a bust for the yanks. It will be the pitching version of Giambi all over againguitarman89

I strongly disagree. For starters, comparing Sabathia to Giambi just does not work. CC is an ace, as he demonstrated by his amazing '07 season. Also, his experience in the postseason has been very minimal, it's far too early to make a judgment on his clutch performance.

The bottom line is the Yanks need more durable and quality pitching. Can you think of anyone that fits this description better than Sabathia, because I sure cannot. If you think there is a pitcher out there who would be better suited to become a Yankee in '09, I'd like to know.

Oh and the last time the Yanks signed a pitcher who had success in the postseason....Carl Pavano, 'nuff said.

i agree he will be the top pitcher on the market and will be solid for them, i just think he will be a bust when it counts. That may fly in CLeveland but if you go to the Yanks and do that you will find yourself booed right out of the league.

As for Pavano, that was what i like to refer to as the good ol "contract year" (Adrian Beltre anyone). The guy had ONE season above 500 in his eight years in the league before signing with the Yanks. Hell, even that year he was below 500 he just had a nice playoff run. When you have a lot of money like the yanks it's easy to be prisoneers of the moment and that's what that was. That guy had been a 4th starter at best his whole career but the yanks paid him cause of what they saw over a 2 week span.

If this 8.5 score is really true, then I'm not surprised it's from Gamespot.

With that said, however, I have not taken Gamespot seriously ever since they reviewed Zelda an 8.8 and Ratchet:TOT a 7.5. It's just ridiculous how off their reviews haven been since then. If you think outside of the Gamespot fan base, almost every other video game fans from other websites like neogaf, gametrailers, 1up, etc... do not take their reviews seriously anymore. This is perhaps why Gamespot is in such need of employees because the site isn't what it once was-- that includes their reviews. Sure some of you will say this is systemwars, and only GS reviews count, but don't underestimate a AAA game if it's only your site out of 50+ that review it less than AAA. This is why sites like Gamerankings.com make GS reviews seem silly compare to others. Sure they might be more "harsh", but that doesn't mean they're right.

If GoW:COO is under AAA at this site, then I'm not surprised. However, I will not even bother reading it, but I haven't bothered reading a single GS review since they underscored many games within the last year or two.

Evilcator

Amen!