@whatsazerg: you dont need to spend 100's on a good KB/M set......10 dollar keyboard and ton of good mouses out there for 40 bucks......on top of that im sick of consoles gamers never looking at the real numbers.....if your going to play a day one PS4 online for 5 years its going to cost 750 before taxes for the console and online costs.....but every console MORON still thinks the system only cost them 400 bucks.....oh well.....

@whatsazerg: so you to stupid to sell your old parts??? i just got a used 970 for a 100 bucks and sold my 770 4gb for 75......i spent a real world 25 dollars to upgrade.......

@TacticaI: with you but no body cares because it me pile of junk VS yours.....me i just want to find good games and play them.....i have all 4 and even keep old stuff like a color game boy with tetris on the back of the can play when pooping......if its a good game even in 4 shade of gray i want to play it.....and i just have to say it seems like a lot of the post on GS are to get people mad or put people on about selling something.....

@thatguy2001: i wish console gamers would do math and look at everything....just a fact....if you got a PS4 day one and keep for 5 years odds are real world cost it will be 750 bucks just because of online.......if you get console gamers to look at the facts most of them see they are getting SCREWED.......you wanted to be that guy im going to be this guy.....learn to do MATH.....

@hover389: you can down clock it when you find away to get rid of the windows and DX 12 load......that is the only way you get apples to apples and even then its not the same....

@fanirama: still with these lies....consoles will never see a 5 year life cycle again....with costs of games and online consoles cost MORE then gaming on a PC that is BETTER.....real world cost of a day one PS4 with 5 years of online 750 bucks.......if you upgrade it would be 400 bucks for a PS4 with 150 for 3 years of online and then 400 bucks again with a extra 2 years of online.....total cost there is 1050........keep thinking its great value for money as your money is taken out of your pockets........without buying a new console your in for 750 bucks because your going online to play........start doing math please....and no a PC that does BETTER can be built for 800 bucks......

@saadred: you cant do math to see that a day one PS4 with 5 years of online really cost 750 bucks US before taxes did you???? console gamers.....keeping it simple because most of them cant do math......HAHAHAH

@jkittleson: i really dont care where you worked as most of the people i work with play games.....i know guys in their 60's playing COD and BF.........i know its hard for you to believe but a lot of the stupid kids today are playing on cell phones......most of the people i know right now at the age of 35 to 65 play games in some form and no im not talking solitary........

@snarf24: do it in a year to make sure its not running a new chip set AMD has not dropped.....i dont think the Scorpio will be based on current hardware.......

@NFJSupreme: yes i will give you that....BUT the PS4 does not have to run windows or any version of DX 11 or 12 so the over head the console will have is a LOT less then the computer.....its still not apples to apples and never can be with the optimization the consoles will get....