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#1 soulreaper-4
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I think they make up for that lose on other products that they have for sale in the eletronics department.

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According to Sony they make up for that lose selling PS3 games, PS2, games, accessories and all the downloadable content on the Playstation Store
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#2 soulreaper-4
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i have a question that might have been answered already but, im not sure. Does sony make a profit from the ps3 slim? cause i know the older models cost them a lot. im just wondering if they are making money now.

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Yes they are still selling it at a lost, here is the proof:

http://www.joystiq.com/2009/08/25/hirai-ps3-slim-sold-at-a-loss-but-business-profitable-overall/

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[QUOTE="swazidoughman"]

[QUOTE="cowgriller"]

i would have responded to this earlier but vista has been giving me crap and i needed to reinstall it.

anyway, it's not a sarcastic post, it's honest and truthful.

tv's don't have inferior quality than pc monitors. it's the contrary, actually. because of the video processors in the tv's, and the scalers, tv's offer a better picture quality than pc monitors. you have to keep in mind that the larger the tv is, the larger the individual pixels, hence you have to sit further away from the tv or you can make out all of the artifacting from the video source. pc monitors have smaller pixels but with the same pixel density (the space between individual pixels) that tv's have, but the smaller pixels require you to sit closer to the monitor, otherwise it would be hard to make out anything on the screen. pc monitors do have the luxury of of having higher resolutions, but that's only because it's necessity driven. many industries such as engineering, architecture, media creation, etc require higher resolutions because the engineer/ architect, artists needs to be precise with their work. this is also the reason for IPS panels which provide better color reproduction and accuracy over the standard TN panels used in consumer grade pc monitors and tv's or PVA/MVA panels used for higher-end consumers. the downside to the IPS panel is the higher refresh rate of the pixels, 12ms or higher, and narrower viewing distance (cannot be viewed that well form the side). PVA panels offer better pixel response times and good color accuracy and reproduction (though not as well as IPS panels) and TN panels offer the best pixel response times (as low as 2ms) which is why they are almost exclusively used in tv's. the lower the response times, the faster the image can be produced/painted on the screen, the less "ghosting" appears on the screen in fast action sequences like sports, video games, and action movies.

TC, tv's offer the better picture quality over pc monitors, not to mention the larger size allowing you to further away than a monitor. this is OT but the best picture quality among tv's would be plasma tv's but they are dying a slow death.

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The higher accuracy of monitors is exactly what makes them superor.

You sound like the type of person who cranks the saturation, sharpness, and contrast to max, and then turns on all the image "enhancing" features.

Although the real key to good PQ is good source material.

actually i'm the type of person how spends hours adjusting the settings to get the proper color accuracy, gray scale, and color temperature.

IPS panels and PVA/MVA panels do have higher color accuracy and reproduction, but they come at a huge cost. a 20" ips panel with a 1600 x 1200 resolution from Lacie would cost you over $800. at that price you could buy a 37" lcd tv or a 42" plasma from panasonic. that ips panel also has a 16ms response time, meaning there would be a ton of ghosting. ips panels were not meant for gaming or watching video, which is why they have higher refresh rates. they were meant for graphics arts, ie photo editing and creation where color accuracy is requirement.

there is more to good PQ than just good source material. there is also the matter having the proper connection (hdmi 1.3b), proper video decoding/scaling (Realta HQV or Reon chips), and a decent or better panel with at least 75% NTSC color reproduction. there is also the matter of the backlight technology and technique that is used. whether it's fluorescent lighting, cold cathode fluorescent light (CCFL, most lcd tv's use this; gives upto 92% NTSC color), light emitting diode backlighting (misrepresented as LED tv's for marketing purposes) and local dimming led backlighting (gives deep/darker black levels and a more realistic reproduction of contrast.)

you sir, sound like a person who doesn't want to admit when he is wrong.

You're right he either don't want to admit it or don't know what he's talking.
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[QUOTE="cowgriller"]

the tv will always be better. tv's have internal video processors and scalers. they also apply pst processing such as "sharpening". pc monitors do not have video processors and most don't have scalers. they really on your computers video card for those. monitors only have signal processors, which tell the monitor what is the resolution of the incoming image and how to display it with what colors.

swazidoughman

Sarcastic post?

What you said is what makes TV's have inferior PQ.

Less post processing the better.

Dude he is right, PC monitors are best for PCs not to be use as a TV with a console, and yes TVs video processors makes them better if you are getting a top quality brand one. A HIGHT QUALITY TV FROM SAMSUNG, SONY OR LG WILL PRODUCE A BETTER COLOR GAMUT THAN MOST MONITORS.
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[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="BodyElite"]

You System Wars people are so obsessed with wireless routers :roll:

PS3_3DO

Wireless is a standard on the two other platforms. Why shouldnt people critise its absence?..... Would be a helluva lot more conveniant for me, then having to share a connection with my Computer.

The PS3 uses the old standard G band. The new standard is N band that is a lot faster and covers more area too. MS is going to release a new Wireless N adaptor.

Ha ha they are charging people for the current wireless adapter 99.99, can you imagine the price of the newer one?
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[QUOTE="mtradr43"][QUOTE="soulreaper-4"][QUOTE="mtradr43"] its not really the same unless they are all being sold at the same time. there is nothing wrong with adding skus as time goes on as long as you phase out old ones

Yeah but even if every console is the same except the hard drive the value the older SKUs goes down, you can notice this by checking GameStop consoles trade-in value.

as it should be, the older things get, the less they are worth as new and better things come out. works the same for everything.

Yeah but in this case they are all the same, they are just swapping the hard drive which in the case of the PS3 you are able to change it.
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[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

I hope they make a Forza 3 250 GB bundle. Next year a Mass Effect 2 bundle too! :D

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lol, i would sell my current 360, and buy the Mass Effect 2 bundle for sure!! :D

This is what they want, to ripoff people by making them sell the existing SKU they have and continue paying extra for the newer one.
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[QUOTE="mtradr43"][QUOTE="soulreaper-4"][QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]Sony, Microsoft. Stop with all the damn SKUs. Thank you.

That's the same thing that pass trough my mind, when will they stop with all the dam SKUs? Xbox 360: 1. Pro with 20GB (without HDMI) 2. Pro with 60GB (with HDMI) 3. Elite 120GB 4. Arcade with a memory memory card included 5. Arcade with 256 MB of flash memory 6. Arcade with 512 MB of flash memory 7. Elite 250GB PS3 1. 60GB with BC 2. 20GB with BC without Wirless connectivity 3. 80GB with PS2 emulation 4. 40GB without BC 5. 160GB without BC 6. 120GB Slim This generation should not be called HD generation it should be called the SKUs generation.

its not really the same unless they are all being sold at the same time. there is nothing wrong with adding skus as time goes on as long as you phase out old ones

Yeah but even if every console is the same except the hard drive the value the older SKUs goes down, you can notice this by checking GameStop consoles trade-in value.
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Wow. This bundles kicks so much butt. Unbelievable value. I'm thinking of getting this for my bedroom.

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Actually you are getting more value buying a PS3, you get games, Blue Ray, Wi-Fi, free online, ability to change the hard drive with a laptop one, you can use a any flash drive for backup and don't have to pay 55 dollars for 512 MB, ability to use any keyboard, browser and a lot more exclusive games including graphically superior games like uncharted 1 and 2.
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[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]Sony, Microsoft. Stop with all the damn SKUs. Thank you.

That's the same thing that pass trough my mind, when will they stop with all the dam SKUs? Xbox 360: 1. Pro with 20GB (without HDMI) 2. Pro with 60GB (with HDMI) 3. Elite 120GB 4. Arcade with a memory memory card included 5. Arcade with 256 MB of flash memory 6. Arcade with 512 MB of flash memory 7. Elite 250GB PS3 1. 60GB with BC 2. 20GB with BC without Wirless connectivity 3. 80GB with PS2 emulation 4. 40GB without BC 5. 160GB without BC 6. 120GB Slim This generation should not be called HD generation it should be called the SKUs generation.