You can be confident that someone who makes comments like "it gets boring driving because there's no music" and soley focuses on things like visuals etc. isn't really into racing games atall. They're not the kind of person to appreciate the things that make Forza superior to the GT series. The physics for example, absolutely superb, infinitely better than Gran Turismo.

These sorts of people just want to watch pretty cars go round and round.

Forza is not '1080i' btw.

It's quite ironic that alot of the pc fanboys in here who will defend their platform to the death, have a high probability that they don't contribute a penny to support it and are actively screwing it over.

Saying that, alot of console owners would steal games if they could, people are stupid.

You don't need developers to tell you pc piracy is out of control.

I think the people banging on about graphics are the sort that don't really 'get' proper driving games and should probably stick to Burnout.

Forza is so much better than the GT series where it matters, I seriously doubt this will change any time soon.

I really struggle to get my head round why some don't understand why Xbox live costs money.

I also struggle with why people begrudge paying such a pittence for such a great service (ok there have been problems of late)

[QUOTE="UnrealSin_X"]PS3 version since it's said to better than the 360's in some ways...Mystery_Writer

you mean this?

Have a look at the far detail in this shot, namely the vertical slats on the dark wall up high. The clock face, the posters etc.

I am a massive Xbox fan, I can't see how anyone could argue it is not the best machine around right now BUT I would never defend Xbox reliability. It's shocking. I'd say a good 50% of the people I know with boxes have had atleast one unit fail.

Secondly, if your Xbox is not venting HOT air after a substancial gaming session, your fans aren't working as they should. Hot air out = good remember.