PS2 version look better(but not that much).

Wanderer5

You've got to be kidding.  The Wii version looks much better.  And people are saying the orignial guy must have been blindfolded...

The scariest thing about FATAL FRAME was the clunky control. It totally killed any enjoyment or scares it had to offer. I don't like cussing at the screen constantly when I'm playing a horror themed game. CALL OF CTHULU had some of the same problems but using the camera in FATAL FRAME was too annoying for me. I encourage people to check out COC if they like scary games. It came out for the XBOX and PC and should be dirt cheap by now.JiveT

I thought one of the best things about Fatal Frame was the way the story (and sub stories) were just...really creepy.  In a messed-up-when-you-think-about-it kinda way.

And the idea in two that you were a small Japanese girl brandishing an old camara to ward off people who for the most part died in horrible ways is kinda freaky.

[QUOTE="ZebethOrZebes"][QUOTE="Redmoonxl2"][QUOTE="ZebethOrZebes"][QUOTE="Redmoonxl2"][QUOTE="ZebethOrZebes"]Making a science fiction parallel to real-world conflict doesn't necessarily make a story great.Redmoonxl2

But...but...now I know the movie is wrong because I have a VERY clear mental image of how that chair looks!

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Maybe I should have said Half-life 1 instead.  It had the 'movie' feel to it and wrapped up a good sci-fi plot with at least some depth (which we see flushed out more in 2)

FEAR, while storywise is weak, it at least goes pretty far into character mentality.  The majority of FEAR your seeing backstory about Alma and why she - and by extension, Fettle - are the way they are.  You don't know if she's justified, or wrong, or crazy and all the while everybody is friggin trying to kill you. 

6icks_tea_4hoar

I'm pretty sure it's impossible.  I remember saving before that and trying both anyway.

Maybe I should have said Half-life 1 instead.  It had the 'movie' feel to it and wrapped up a good sci-fi plot with at least some depth (which we see flushed out more in 2)

FEAR, while storywise is weak, it at least goes pretty far into character mentality.  The majority of FEAR your seeing backstory about Alma and why she - and by extension, Fettle - are the way they are.  You don't know if she's justified, or wrong, or crazy and all the while everybody is friggin trying to kill you. 

Hey, I like playing Halo.  And I like the Halo books too.

But Halo 2's story introduced some pretty stupid themes.

1) Flood overmind that can not only warp time (but seems to be stuck in one place nonetheless) but makes the until then nearly brainless Flood capable of massive organization.

2) The Arbitor.  While he's a cool character and its fun to play the other side, lets not forget that the Master Chief is the sole reason he is as good as dead when the war is over.  There can be no cooperation that is implied in the game.  And if you want to include the books, he isn't anywhere near your typical elite, to an overly heritical level.

3) Earth.  Two things here.  If the books are to believed then the defences around Earth arn't near enough to slow an invasion the size the Covanent threw at them, and the time elasped during the game is more than it would take the Covenant ground forces to mop the floor with Earth's defenders.  The Ark is the worst part.  The Covenent have to have some idea what it is, seeing as they got to Earth looking for it, not knowing the humans kinda lived there.  And (again) given the nature we know of the Covenent, they can pretty quickly find Forerunner relics or technology and then glass the planet.

And its petty, but what about Mendez?  Last we saw him he as playing grabass with an elite.  But hell, I did laugh at his little 'its classified' joke.

If the series had gone a different way I wouln't have some of the issues I do now.  But maybe the books have spoiled me a bit too.

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[QUOTE="6icks_tea_4hoar"][QUOTE="spikegriffin"]But that begs the question, is it really the making of a decent story, or a quick cash in on current events?6icks_tea_4hoar

Historically, its better to add a sci-fi or alternate reality to a story to make it current events.  Ever read 1984 or Animal Farm?  And that's one author.  The only reason I'd contend this is because Halo's story dosn't flush out these themes, its just uses them for drama (which is not true for the books, you see mor development of the Covenant). 

For me, a good story implies wheels within wheels within wheels.

True, they're not cash ins.  But I was addressing your point of Halo's sci-fi setting vs. currents event game.  The reason Halo's story seems closer to a cash in is because you can draw so many surface parallels, but (again) the themes are not fleshed out and are often little more then drama inducing.

I should point out too, that Halo 1 DID have a decent story going.  Halo 2 just messed it all up to the point that I would call irreperably.

[QUOTE="Tiefster"][QUOTE="Godslay"]I agree Halo does have a good story, anyone who says otherwise didn't pay attention to the game or read the books. The only thing that bothers me is that Starcraft and Halo have a very similar story. Humans = Terrans, Covenant = Protoss, Flood = Zerg, and Forerunner = Xel'Naga. Either way both great games with a great history, and depth.Godslay

F.E.A.R.

Half-Life 2

[QUOTE="spikegriffin"]But that begs the question, is it really the making of a decent story, or a quick cash in on current events?6icks_tea_4hoar

Historically, its better to add a sci-fi or alternate reality to a story to make it current events.  Ever read 1984 or Animal Farm?  And that's one author.  The only reason I'd contend this is because Halo's story dosn't flush out these themes, its just uses them for drama (which is not true for the books, you see mor development of the Covenant). 

For me, a good story implies wheels within wheels within wheels.

But that begs the question, is it really the making of a decent story, or a quick cash in on current events?

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Oh, and I do like the books quite a bit, but they don't count in relation to the game.  Yes, they are part of the universe and may even be acknowledged by MS and Bungie, but the team that makes and writes the Halo GAME storyline has little to do with the book except to say, "Don't add that", or "Looks good".

The author should be lauded, not the game.