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#1  Edited By Still_Vicious
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@fenriz275 said:
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@fenriz275 said:
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@hillelslovak said:

You sound like you are a Fox news contributor. That is pure conjecture on your part.

and you sound like somebody that doesn't do their research.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/welfare-pays-more-entry-level-shocking-number-states-144812704.html?ref=gs

"Source: Bureau of labor statistics."

Gonna bring back an old one.....OWNED!!!

So it's a good thing that entry level wages aren't living wages? Seems to be the argument you're making.

You can live off minimum wage. People defaultly, aren't entitled earn more.

You cannot live off minimum wage that's why they get food stamps. I'm going to assume that you're ignorant and not willfully ignoring facts but that's probably a mistake on my part.

you can live off minimum wage, it's enough for bare necessities. Even beyond that, minimum wage is something you earn just starting out. Heck, mcdonalds gives you a raise every 3 months.

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@hillelslovak said:
@still_vicious said:
@hillelslovak said:
@still_vicious said:
@hillelslovak said:

You sound like you are a Fox news contributor. That is pure conjecture on your part.

and you sound like somebody that doesn't do their research.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/welfare-pays-more-entry-level-shocking-number-states-144812704.html?ref=gs

"Source: Bureau of labor statistics."

Gonna bring back an old one.....OWNED!!!

How do low wages create an environment that encourages people to not work? It was not at all explained how the correlation holds. Putting two statistics and saying correlation equals causality is a fallacy, and very dishonest.

The Cato institute is founded by the freaking Koch Brothers, just about the most dishonest, corrupting billionaire world burners on the planet. They try to deny climate change. Look at where you get your sources.

It's pretty simple. In some states you can make the equivalency of 50k+ a year for not working the way the sytsem is set up. Obviously some people are going to take advantage of that since 50k sounds better than "minimum wage", or "mcdonalds". It did explain the correlation, it's pretty simple, not to repeat myself as I've already stated it simply

Also, like I said "source:bereau of labor statisitcs".

You've attacked the following things: me, the source, the koch brothers, and strangely enough managed to wedge global warming in there too (wtf?) but haven't actually tried to disprove what I've said. Really though...you can't it's hard facts; the system is rigged in a way that a person can make more money not working than actually working. Like I said, in some states you can make more than an entry level computer programmer doing nothing.

Data proves things, attacking me just makes you seem.....dishonest (lol).

Are you for raising wages then?

I'm for paying somebody what supply and demand justify.

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#3 Still_Vicious
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Already volunteered once.

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@Jacanuk said:
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People who are religious are more happy and tenacious.

Why not be religious?

Who says religious people are more happy and tenacious? care to back that up with a credible source.

And why not be religious? well because most a intelligent enough to see religion for what it is and nothing but smoke and mirrors.

i've sited 4 studies in this thread...

Don't confuse non-religiousity and intelligence. I know a PhD in physics who a devout catholic.

Why not post those studies at the first post where you line up for the debate.

And intelligence has a lot to do with whether or not you believe in a "god" But as someone said "religion is opium for the people"

So in a sense religion is no different than people who use alcohol or drugs or sex to "hide behind".

Probably should have lol, maybe next time.

I think it has more to do with how you're raised, after all, there's no more evidence for a god than against it.

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@fenriz275 said:
@still_vicious said:
@hillelslovak said:
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A bigger issue is that they help to create an environment where you make more money by being unemployed than being employed.

You sound like you are a Fox news contributor. That is pure conjecture on your part.

and you sound like somebody that doesn't do their research.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/welfare-pays-more-entry-level-shocking-number-states-144812704.html?ref=gs

"Source: Bureau of labor statistics."

Gonna bring back an old one.....OWNED!!!

So it's a good thing that entry level wages aren't living wages? Seems to be the argument you're making.

You can live off minimum wage. People defaultly, aren't entitled earn more.

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@hillelslovak said:
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Yes, it's food stamps that are robbing Americans of their tax dollars. pffffffffffffffft

A bigger issue is that they help to create an environment where you make more money by being unemployed than being employed.

You sound like you are a Fox news contributor. That is pure conjecture on your part.

and you sound like somebody that doesn't do their research.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/welfare-pays-more-entry-level-shocking-number-states-144812704.html?ref=gs

"Source: Bureau of labor statistics."

Gonna bring back an old one.....OWNED!!!

How do low wages create an environment that encourages people to not work? It was not at all explained how the correlation holds. Putting two statistics and saying correlation equals causality is a fallacy, and very dishonest.

The Cato institute is founded by the freaking Koch Brothers, just about the most dishonest, corrupting billionaire world burners on the planet. They try to deny climate change. Look at where you get your sources.

It's pretty simple. In some states you can make the equivalency of 50k+ a year for not working the way the sytsem is set up. Obviously some people are going to take advantage of that since 50k sounds better than "minimum wage", or "mcdonalds". It did explain the correlation, it's pretty simple, not to repeat myself as I've already stated it simply

Also, like I said "source:bereau of labor statisitcs".

You've attacked the following things: me, the source, the koch brothers, and strangely enough managed to wedge global warming in there too (wtf?) but haven't actually tried to disprove what I've said. Really though...you can't it's hard facts; the system is rigged in a way that a person can make more money not working than actually working. Like I said, in some states you can make more than an entry level computer programmer doing nothing.

Data proves things, attacking me just makes you seem.....dishonest (lol).

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They can be fun or interesting. But more often than not they are nightmares that wake you up at 3 in the morning so you can't get any sleep.

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@hillelslovak said:
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Food stamp benefits are abused in this country and need to be reduced.

Yes, it's food stamps that are robbing Americans of their tax dollars. pffffffffffffffft

A bigger issue is that they help to create an environment where you make more money by being unemployed than being employed.

You sound like you are a Fox news contributor. That is pure conjecture on your part.

and you sound like somebody that doesn't do their research.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/welfare-pays-more-entry-level-shocking-number-states-144812704.html?ref=gs

"Source: Bureau of labor statistics."

Gonna bring back an old one.....OWNED!!!

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@plageus900 said:

@still_vicious: In what way should they be reduced? I see people abusing it almost everyday, but there are people that genuinely need it. There was a guy in front of me in the checkout line the other day and the cashier was scanning his items; milk, bread, cheese, veggies, etc. There was also a ton of booze as well. I noticed he was using an EBT card and thought "That wont work for the booze." After the cashier was done ringing up the food, he used his EBT card. Then the cashier started a new transaction for the booze and he pulled out a clip of 100 dollar bills to pay for it.

It seems hes able to get assistance because he works under the table.

I know some states have limited what you can buy, i.e. no steak.

My bigger concern is that people can just perpetually stay on gov assistance because it often pays better than work. I remember one study that had shown in 10 states, you could make more money off of unemployment than an entry level programmer.

Require people to be looking for work.

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@Jacanuk said:
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People who are religious are more happy and tenacious.

Why not be religious?

Who says religious people are more happy and tenacious? care to back that up with a credible source.

And why not be religious? well because most a intelligent enough to see religion for what it is and nothing but smoke and mirrors.

i've sited 4 studies in this thread...

Don't confuse non-religiousity and intelligence. I know a PhD in physics who a devout catholic.