[QUOTE="LongZhiZi"]It's not disingenuous- both PC gaming and PS3 offer online gaming without any of those hassles for free. You speak as if the choice is a paid service like Live or what you described. Beating up on a strawman is easy, but it doesn't win debates.UnnDunn

The point is they do care for those features. They do want the rich features Xbox Live offers. They just don't want to pay for them. But to say so outright would put into stark relief just how cheap they are, so they have to lie and say they "just want to play online" and "don't care for any of those features."

PSN is the only real competitor Xbox Live has. It's free, which is fine, and it satisfies those people who claim they "just want to play online" while still giving them a few of the features they really want from an online game service. But let's stop this ridiculous argument that people "just want to play online." They want more than that, they just don't want to pay for it.

[QUOTE="Dasacant"]cool but I hate hate when sites use a 0-100 scale. Is there a difference between 89 and 90?ProjectPat187

8.9=89 it's not a 1-10 scale....

There's only 1 good DMC game and it was the 1st the rest have been lackluster.

[QUOTE="LOXO7"]

If XBL is priced. And IF I was a dev then maybe our game won't be as much to put on live. Maybe we can gain more. IF I was a dev. Which I'm not. So how does this make it worth the price tag again? Oh because they can put more into the game. Okay. ... yes, and that will in turn to Make the Price tag of the game go up. ahah....:| :cry:

Oh wait. You're saying we pay what the devs should pay. Okay. Yes thats why live is priced. Good for the devs. And that makes it good for us?

UnnDunn

Then why does Madden still use EA's outdated crappy server.... The same games perform at a high level for both systems do you even have a PS3 bc Killzone and Warhawk run extremely smooth for all the chaos that they have going on with them and Sony's games ghenerally have more 30+ online than Live games for my 360.... Stop being a lemming does it really matter??? I do pay for XBL and I like it but it should be free quite simply to me the games run just an smooth on PSN if not better...

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[QUOTE="UnnDunn"]Bzzt. Wrong. Neither PSN nor Steam work this way.

UnnDunn

Really?? Resistance 2 works exactly the same way as you described, so does Killzone 2.

guess how much I care... not at all... Killzone 2 runs pretty smoothly online better than alot of XBL games...

Most FPS games single players bore me the only thing I do is play multiplayer... FPS single players all have horrible stories and just are plain out garbage except for Metroid games...

me too man. LOL I get my ass handed to me all the time in Arcade mode. I mean I have beaten the game on Medium at least... which was hard as hell... Seth owning everyone after the first round lol. I have more fun doing Trial mode and Survial mode though... it gets harder and harder to a certain point unlike Arcade mode lol... after the first 4 people the s#$% is on lol.... it's all fun though... I love it!kenken2g

I can go through hard without issues and not die til seth and I suck at the game online.... But I can say I can own anybody who uses Abel and Akuma.... I dont understand why more ppl dont play with Gouken he can do a Hadouken in the on ppl when their jumping...

[QUOTE="swade"][QUOTE="jakarai"]I am loving this game right now. I wish there was an option to turn offf Supers and Ultras though. Akumas and Sagats are cheap as hell.jakarai

You might've been playing me lol... that's what I do but you have to keep jumping towards him and just do a low kick.

I am loving this game right now. I wish there was an option to turn offf Supers and Ultras though. Akumas and Sagats are cheap as hell.jakarai

I think PPl need to pay more attention to the detail because the graphics to me look good look at Kratos there's alot of detail he looks more detailed than the main guy off of Gears of War