No crossfire is just for ATI cards, and SLI just for nvidias cards.

why is the E4600 only around $15 more and yet much less reviews than the E4500? is the extra +0.2GHz worth it?

moab-doug

The E4600 is a later release, and more uncommon than E4500.

the E4500 got an multipler by 11 and the E4600 a multipler by 12...

so a 4600 would OC better...?

The high multipler and low FSB make them exelent for OC, one of the best... some E4500 go over 4ghz :S and most make about 3ghz on stock v-core.

E4500 is one of overcklockers favorites, cos there easy to match with Ram and mobo.

i´d go for opt. 2.

wait... I already got opt. 2. ;)

um i was looking at this one, how does it look? i couldnt find a good priced 256 bit one. this ones uber cheap.

http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Graphics+Cards/PCI-E/nVIDIA+GeForce+8+Series/nVidia+GeForce+8600GT+256MB+DDR3+PCI-E+?productId=29821

thanks

jpph

At this time (up to date) I don´t recomend a 8600GT to anyone that´ll play new games with his computer, -yeah, some will say it´s fine for gaming, but games that´ll come out in a soon future will need more and more from your GPU, If you don´t mind spending 50-100$ on a GPU today, and upgrade in a year again i don´t recomend a 8600GT for you.

HD3850/8800GS is a bit more expencive but there MUCH BETTER, about the dubble performace or more.

So I´d say save a few more $ to get a card that you could play all never games out today in about max or good settings.

Sorry if someone is offended by owning a 8600, !but fact is!, -it´s an old card and the slowest among the former 8xxx nvidia series.

In it´s time it was a great card but hardware evolve fast, and now its not a good gaming card.

90c?????

Wow thats hot! whater boils at 100c!

farenheigh and celcius is one BIG difference!

RMA your gpu cos 90c is not acceptable.

they should stay below 75 at their worst cooling solution (single stock.)

my NEVER go higher than 55c (zalman vf700 and O/C 750core/1050mem)

Well the "Audio will never be better than it's worst link".

I strongly doubt you will hear a big difference with a high-end sound-card, together with that speakers.

(Im very sceptic to a small satelite speaker with the little,little 1" tweeter for the whole mid/high range freq.)

but if you want to, you can just add a good sound-card and later upgrade your speakers.

Personally i will never buy a computer speaker set, cos those money make much more sense added to a serious receiver and full-sice speakers.

Okay here some install tip.

1)download a new driver pakage with CCC save that on your desktop, up to date is catalyst v8.3?

2)reboot into safe mode start the instaler then under the install you have the opt. to uninstall all previous drivers.

3)again reboot into safe mode, install the driver you downloaded before (the one you used to uninstall your previous with)

4)reboot into your windows and check if that´ll sort it out.

Are you full-administrator?

If you use Vista. (Or XP but there may be some difference then)

If you don't have the permission/ownership to delete the file/archive you left-click to mark the file/archive then you press the rigth mouse-button (over the selected file) and press properties then go to the security tab and hit the advance setting, there you can overtake the ownership over the archive/file, just select the your user and select the edit button, after that you press that you overtake the ownership over the file.

Maybe that´ll help.

Sorry if my Eng/grammar suck, but Eng. is not my native language. (from Sweden)

Q: what should i look out for when buying a gpu?

A: Benchmarks!

Cos even when you read the spec of the card you don't know the performance.

8600Gt may have good spec. but it's a poor performer., only way to know if a card perform good is to get access to benchmarks/reviews of the card.

Google for ex. : "8600Gt benchmark review" (or any other card your looking at. without the "")

If, your budjet is narrow you could look at HD3850 and 8800GS or 9600GT they are 200% better performers or more.

:hay, where in Europe?, if your from Scandinavia i could name some good online-stores.

If you use Vista you should wait for some time after the start-up, cos Vista is reading some recently/or thing you use often into the ram cash, for better flow/faster access in vista.

(that's why the comp. may be slow and use CPU after a recently restart.)

-mean, if you run 3Dmark06 under the first minute or so you'll get a performance hit to your result.

-so if you did run the first when ram is filling up, your second test/benchmark would be better.

-Bad thing is that it could probably be the other way around if your comp. been left on for a long time.?

I'm not sure about all this but that's one "faaaaar out" explanation.

well, the height from the socket+ a few mm from the cpu... so minus about another 1.5cm from that...

But that's a rather large cooler ;) where does the fan sit?, cos if it's on the top you will not get the amount of air above the fan, and it'll decrease the amount air pushed down over the cooler.

If it's mounted at the side of the cooler you should be fine.